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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Losing Stew, Jake and Redders has dodgy knees. Roughy has an obvious injury history which could rule him out for periods and force Boyd to ruck for long periods. Jack Watts at the right price would be a handy addition with vacancies up forward, at a good price.
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    • Rocket Science
      Coaching Staff
      • Oct 2007
      • 4849

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      I'd have a long look at Watts. Not because he's particularly attractive but because we're just shy of desperate.

      Assuming Crameri & Stringer are gone and given screaming question marks over the ability of Dickson & Smith to recover form - if they even stay - we really are constructing a whole new forward line from scratch.

      On a properly balanced team, Redders is depth. Cloke's in a vaguely similar boat and no longer a reliable avenue to goal. Boyd's neither been groomed nor inclined to be a key forward right now, let alone *the* key forward.

      Short of poaching a genuine goal threat via trade it's going to be Bevo's magic pudding up forward in 2018.
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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11108

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        I think we are looking at the wrong area of the ground to bolster. If we bring in the right players in the midfield we can instantaneously make our 1st tier mids far more dangerous in other parts of the ground. No reason whatsoever why someone like Bont can't nudge 35-40 goals next year in the way Danger and Martin have been deployed in 2017. Our mids as a collective need to be more dangerous with their possessions.

        I'm not a fan of bringing in players who are one position/one area. As an example Watts is nothing other than a forward. Will he be that much of an upgrade on Cloke or Redders to justify the trade outlay? He won't improve our ability to pressure the opposition rebounders and lock the ball into F50 that's for certain.
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        • dog town
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1896

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Originally posted by Sedat
          I think we are looking at the wrong area of the ground to bolster. If we bring in the right players in the midfield we can instantaneously make our 1st tier mids far more dangerous in other parts of the ground. No reason whatsoever why someone like Bont can't nudge 35-40 goals next year in the way Danger and Martin have been deployed in 2017. Our mids as a collective need to be more dangerous with their possessions.

          I'm not a fan of bringing in players who are one position/one area. As an example Watts is nothing other than a forward. Will he be that much of an upgrade on Cloke or Redders to justify the trade outlay? He won't improve our ability to pressure the opposition rebounders and lock the ball into F50 that's for certain.
          I agree with this. Our best performance in the second half of the year came against Essendon. In that game we played Bont forward, Dahlhaus forward for pressure and swung JJ forward in patches. It is definitely something I would be looking at doing more regularly at the very least. To do that we need more quality in the areas that those guys play. We definitely don't need any more key position player unless they offer something really unique or damaging.

          We don't have an enormous amount of top end talent so we need to be able to use the players that do have unique abilities with as much versatility as we can.

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          • Doc26
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2009
            • 3087

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Given the success that Richmond has had this season in opting for a small forward setup, that relies more on pressure acts than bringing elite skill do we need to re-think the value of Honeychurch in our line up. Looking at Richmond's smalls in Butler, Castagna, Bolton etc they are not far removed from what Mitch can offer us in bringing back the forward pressure that we had shown pre 2016.

            All of a sudden I can see Mitch's value in the market rise significantly but I'm re-thinking whether losing him would come at a greater loss to us.

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            • Rocket Science
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2007
              • 4849

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Deploying our more creative/dangerous players forward is great provided we've got the ammo to cover their absence upfield when we do.

              In 2017 we scored fewer points than everyone not named Fremantle, Gold Coast or Carlton. A plan to better that awful record better be near the top of the list.
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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11108

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by Doc26
                Given the success that Richmond has had this season in opting for a small forward setup, that relies more on pressure acts than bringing elite skill do we need to re-think the value of Honeychurch in our line up. Looking at Richmond's smalls in Butler, Castagna, Bolton etc they are not far removed from what Mitch can offer us in bringing back the forward pressure that we had shown pre 2016.

                All of a sudden I can see Mitch's value in the market rise significantly but I'm re-thinking whether losing him would come at a greater loss to us.
                Reckon Honeychurch doesn't have the raw pace to sustain the repeat defensive efforts. He certainly has the right mindset but the lack of pace prevents him from being able to effectively mimic the Richmond mosquito fleet, who are all extremely quick and have big tanks.
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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  I think we are looking at the wrong area of the ground to bolster. If we bring in the right players in the midfield we can instantaneously make our 1st tier mids far more dangerous in other parts of the ground. No reason whatsoever why someone like Bont can't nudge 35-40 goals next year in the way Danger and Martin have been deployed in 2017. Our mids as a collective need to be more dangerous with their possessions.

                  I'm not a fan of bringing in players who are one position/one area. As an example Watts is nothing other than a forward. Will he be that much of an upgrade on Cloke or Redders to justify the trade outlay? He won't improve our ability to pressure the opposition rebounders and lock the ball into F50 that's for certain.

                  I tend to agree but what's your thoughts on a ruckman who can't drift forward and kick a goal or float across half back and take a relieving mark? A ruckman who is just a ruckman. Who is good at being a ruckman and will bring the mids into the game by directing the ball their way and creating space for them to run into. And take a few overhead marks around the ground.

                  I'd love to bring a pure ruckman into the playing group.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44192

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    I'm still interested in Adam Saad, any suggestions on what we could do to get him?
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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10970

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I'm still interested in Adam Saad, any suggestions on what we could do to get him?
                      You would think a second round pick would be around the mark. The problem is our second round pick has also been linked to trades for Impey and Stringer (given back to Essendon for pick 11). Of course next years pick could also come into play.

                      Only Essendon and Carlton seem to have been linked so far but I think he would be a better acquisition than Impey.

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11104

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I'm still interested in Adam Saad, any suggestions on what we could do to get him?
                        Pick 26 is probably what he'd cost, give or take a little more.

                        I wouldn't think we could nab both Impey and Saad but I would love either one of them.

                        Not sure if the Suns would see any appeal in Crameri, Honeychurch, Campbell etc. Future picks could be in play but having said that, not sure he will be somebody that we target.
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44192

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          You would think a second round pick would be around the mark. The problem is our second round pick has also been linked to trades for Impey and Stringer (given back to Essendon for pick 11). Of course next years pick could also come into play.

                          Only Essendon and Carlton seem to have been linked so far but I think he would be a better acquisition than Impey.
                          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                          Pick 26 is probably what he'd cost, give or take a little more.

                          I wouldn't think we could nab both Impey and Saad but I would love either one of them.

                          Not sure if the Suns would see any appeal in Crameri, Honeychurch, Campbell etc. Future picks could be in play but having said that, not sure he will be somebody that we target.
                          We would need to get very creative to land both of them. Might have to work some magic with pick 9.
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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14861

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I'm still interested in Adam Saad, any suggestions on what we could do to get him?
                            Suns seem to have plenty of second round picks this year already, they seem to want players. Not sure we have anyone they want that would actually go there.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44192

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Suns seem to have plenty of second round picks this year already, they seem to want players. Not sure we have anyone they want that would actually go there.
                              The might come at an early pick though with one or hose 2nd rounders coming back. They seem to be willing to deal to help him get back home.
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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3768

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I'm still interested in Adam Saad, any suggestions on what we could do to get him?
                                Has anyone mentioned who has has been linked to? All I’ve read is that going home is a possibility just have no feel for where.

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