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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

    Originally posted by ratsmac
    We could give Boyd a mentoring role with Schache which might actually help them both develop as well. I would be happy with Schache.

    It would make us awfully tall but talls are normally good trade value for the future if need be. We would then have to draft all fast mids with good skill if we took Schache.
    Two potential power forwards (works for GCS and others), I love the idea also with an athletic freak like Young playing the roaming role too. Redders depth/trade, Crameri (?) and Cloke possibly retired at year's end. As you say, if we can get good users delivering inside 50. Then we need two genuine crumbling, quick forward pocket types.

    A Roughy/English first ruck with Boyd & Schache capable of rucking means no defined second ruck role, which I'm sure Bevo would like. And two big forwards will force change with entries to them and personnel around them.

    And, as a by product and not primary motivation, for membership numbers. We can sell a 10 year period with a forward line Twin Towers of a pick 1 KPF and a pick 2 KPF , with a resting Pick 4 up forward too.
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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7301

      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

      Is Schache actually good?

      Non-competitor.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7471

        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

        Originally posted by mjp
        Is Schache actually good?

        Non-competitor.
        I guess thats the million dollar question. Is he good but just been poor in Brisbane? Has he applied himself 100%?

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7301

          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

          Tim Walsh come on down.

          Sorry but a big no thanks from me.
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • macca
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 2352

            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

            Originally posted by Topdog
            I guess thats the million dollar question. Is he good but just been poor in Brisbane? Has he applied himself 100%?
            Were these Homesick ex-brisbane players?
            Yeo , docherty , aish
            YEo just won the B&f for wc,
            Docherty has become a fair player at carlton

            Aish may not make it as his struggle for games this year for whatever reasons
            2/3 could it be a good indicator ??? If schache on the market and he ticks our boxes, go hard and the throw the kitchen sink. We need a young forward at that age profile.

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

              Originally posted by mjp
              Tim Walsh come on down.

              Sorry but a big no thanks from me.
              That is a very big NO!

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11112

                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                Originally posted by mjp
                Is Schache actually good?

                Non-competitor.
                That's my concern with him. You can't teach that willingness to compete - that's why Jack Watts is not a KPF despite being more than big enough to be.
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10072

                  Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                  Brett Anderson (not a terrible source) claiming that we're one of four clubs into him.

                  This is good news for those who want to pick him up (for obvious reasons), and also good news for those who don't want to (because he will inevitably pick somewhere else).
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                    So 10 Victorian clubs.
                    - less Richmond & Essendon ruling themselves out
                    - less Geelong, they’re too stretched for trades as it is
                    - less Hawthorn, they’ve nothing to trade after Impey takes their top pick
                    - less Melbourne, tied up with Lever

                    Between 4 of: Dogs, Saints, North, Carlton & Collingwood

                    I can’t see us beating big clubs or bigger money with better picks
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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7706

                      Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      So 10 Victorian clubs.
                      - less Richmond & Essendon ruling themselves out
                      - less Geelong, they’re too stretched for trades as it is
                      - less Hawthorn, they’ve nothing to trade after Impey takes their top pick
                      - less Melbourne, tied up with Lever

                      Between 4 of: Dogs, Saints, North, Carlton & Collingwood

                      I can’t see us beating big clubs or bigger money with better picks
                      Count Saints out. They ruled themselves out.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44199

                        Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        So 10 Victorian clubs.
                        - less Richmond & Essendon ruling themselves out
                        - less Geelong, they’re too stretched for trades as it is
                        - less Hawthorn, they’ve nothing to trade after Impey takes their top pick
                        - less Melbourne, tied up with Lever

                        Between 4 of: Dogs, Saints, North, Carlton & Collingwood

                        I can’t see us beating big clubs or bigger money with better picks
                        I think you could cancel out StKilda with Bruce, Membrey and McCartin
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65980

                          Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                          Count Saints out. They ruled themselves out.
                          I bet he goes to Collingwood.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44199

                            Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                            I'd rather take early picks into the draft but I just have the feeling we could be looking for that good news story and Schache might be that.

                            I'm not sure why there are questions marks about his competitiveness though, he has played 27 games in 2 seasons which is a fast tracked development rate for young KP players.
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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                              Ok. Dogs, North, Carlton & Collingwood.

                              I think as a list we are comfortably the best. He shouldn't go to North. Then we are competing against two 'big clubs' with picks better than us. As much as I'd like him, we don't pitch well it seems.

                              Edit: Apparently Collingwood want to use pick 6 at the draft. So if we use the BT Model (9 & 26, 2018 3rd rounder, plus a fringe player for 18 & 41 and Schache) then North or Carlton might get into a murky area where the would give up too much. Carlton & North could use Redders. Perhaps we can throw him around to persuade one of them there's a cheaper option and keep their pick 3 & 4.
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Who would you have JMac target this year?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I'd rather take early picks into the draft but I just have the feeling we could be looking for that good news story and Schache might be that.

                                I'm not sure why there are questions marks about his competitiveness though, he has played 27 games in 2 seasons which is a fast tracked development rate for young KP players.
                                If we can land 11 and use it. Swap 9 & 18 as I've previously laid out. That's still giving Dal two notional first rounders and pick 41 plus Schache, Trengove & Crozier.

                                I'd call that a big overall win from where we were when Bevo's interview hit the Hun website.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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