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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18926

    Originally posted by chef
    Haha i did have to google what stop capping means.
    Warrick capping,?
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • SonofScray
      Coaching Staff
      • Apr 2008
      • 4223

      If we can’t get something meaningful, he should sit,
      Time and Tide Waits For No Man

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66280

        Originally posted by SonofScray
        If we can’t get something meaningful, he should sit,
        I would prefer if he has sorted himself out he stays a Bulldog
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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21669

          Originally posted by Grantysghost

          Warrick capping,?
          That almost sounds niche, like Chem Warrick Capping is something the kids are into these days..........
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44399

            Originally posted by SonofScray
            If we can’t get something meaningful, he should sit,
            While we would probably consider that, no one wins in that scenario.
            I can really see an outcome where the AFL steps in to make sure we are adequately compensated
            Let's hope he chooses to stay and is ready to get on with things with us.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • NAUGHTY100
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2024
              • 437

              Originally posted by GVGjr

              While we would probably consider that, no one wins in that scenario.
              I can really see an outcome where the AFL steps in to make sure we are adequately compensated
              Let's hope he chooses to stay and is ready to get on with things with us.
              My thoughts exactly GVGjr , the AFL have been monitoring the Jamarra situation , and i dont think the AFL would want the scrutiny of the football world if after they virtually were watching and micro managing the situation , they then turned around and turned a blind eye and let Sydney rob us blind , the conspiracy theorist would have a field day saying the AFL conspired with Sydney to get Jamarra to the Swans , just to shore up success and bring people through the gates in Sydney .

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              • kruder
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2011
                • 3805

                I can see a world where the AFL does nothing, I'm not sure what they can do? We feel sorry for the dogs you have to give them extra draft picks it's not fair?

                Um bad luck I would say, we gonna need Marra to return in the red white and blue and play some good footy to get anything decent trade wise make no mistake.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44399

                  Originally posted by NAUGHTY100

                  My thoughts exactly GVGjr , the AFL have been monitoring the Jamarra situation , and i dont think the AFL would want the scrutiny of the football world if after they virtually were watching and micro managing the situation , they then turned around and turned a blind eye and let Sydney rob us blind , the conspiracy theorist would have a field day saying the AFL conspired with Sydney to get Jamarra to the Swans , just to shore up success and bring people through the gates in Sydney .
                  The AFL is very concerned with the decline of participation of indigenous players in the AFL. It's part of the reason why they stepped in to assist the club with Jamarra.
                  With that in mind potentially having one of the high profile indigenous players sitting out another season won't be palatable for them.
                  I can see a scenario where they step in to assist a trade if it comes to that.
                  What could they do?
                  If it's Sydney as is being touted then the AFL could step in and offer an ambassadors role for Jamarra up in Sydney and that could provide Sydney with a significant salary cap relief.
                  There could be other incentives as well.

                  If Jamarra stays then we just continue to work with him.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66280

                    Originally posted by kruder
                    I can see a world where the AFL does nothing, I'm not sure what they can do? We feel sorry for the dogs you have to give them extra draft picks it's not fair?

                    Um bad luck I would say, we gonna need Marra to return in the red white and blue and play some good footy to get anything decent trade wise make no mistake.
                    Who says we want to trade him
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • The bulldog tragician
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1975

                      Originally posted by GVGjr

                      The AFL is very concerned with the decline of participation of indigenous players in the AFL. It's part of the reason why they stepped in to assist the club with Jamarra.
                      With that in mind potentially having one of the high profile indigenous players sitting out another season won't be palatable for them.
                      I can see a scenario where they step in to assist a trade if it comes to that.
                      What could they do?
                      If it's Sydney as is being touted then the AFL could step in and offer an ambassadors role for Jamarra up in Sydney and that could provide Sydney with a significant salary cap relief.
                      There could be other incentives as well.

                      If Jamarra stays then we just continue to work with him.
                      This benefits Sydney but you also said you expected we’d be adequately compensated. I’m interested to know how do you think that might work?

                      While I wish Jamarra well as an individual it feels all wrong that we have from all accounts offered considerable support, continued to pay a player who has given us nothing but would have been more than handy this year, and then see him play elsewhere.
                      [url]www.bulldogtragician.com[/url] A blog about being a lifelong fan of the Dogs and our quixotic attempt to replicate 1954. AND WE DID
                      Author of [URL="http://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/mighty-west"]"The Mighty West: the Bulldogs journey from daydream believers to premiership heroes[/URL]"
                      Twitter @bulldogstragic

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66280

                        Originally posted by The bulldog tragician

                        This benefits Sydney but you also said you expected we’d be adequately compensated. I’m interested to know how do you think that might work?

                        While I wish Jamarra well as an individual it feels all wrong that we have from all accounts offered considerable support, continued to pay a player who has given us nothing but would have been more than handy this year, and then see him play elsewhere.
                        The Sydney call is from Journos. Jamarra has denied it
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44399

                          Originally posted by The bulldog tragician

                          This benefits Sydney but you also said you expected we’d be adequately compensated. I’m interested to know how do you think that might work?

                          While I wish Jamarra well as an individual it feels all wrong that we have from all accounts offered considerable support, continued to pay a player who has given us nothing but would have been more than handy this year, and then see him play elsewhere.
                          This is just a scenario, I don't expect many people will see it like this but here goes:

                          Sydney might start off with a 1st round pick offer. If say the AFL offered them $250K a year Ambassadors allowance outside of the cap it could be an incentive for them to offer a bit more perhaps a 1st and 2nd round pick.
                          The Dogs do a bit better than expected and get 600K+ off the books.
                          The AFL can sell how they're able to work with team to enhance indigenous players in the competition.
                          The Swans get the key forward they need and a bit of relief in the cap.

                          Jamarra sitting out another season is bad for everyone.

                          Many of our supporters will be filthy with that sort of return but the more reasonable ones won't feel likely we have been ripped off again.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18926

                            Originally posted by GVGjr

                            This is just a scenario, I don't expect many people will see it like this but here goes:

                            Sydney might start off with a 1st round pick offer. If say the AFL offered them $250K a year Ambassadors allowance outside of the cap it could be an incentive for them to offer a bit more perhaps a 1st and 2nd round pick.
                            The Dogs do a bit better than expected and get 600K+ off the books.
                            The AFL can sell how they're able to work with team to enhance indigenous players in the competition.
                            The Swans get the key forward they need and a bit of relief in the cap.

                            Jamarra sitting out another season is bad for everyone.

                            Many of our supporters will be filthy with that sort of return but the more reasonable ones won't feel likely we have been ripped off again.
                            If we got a first rounder we'd be making out like bandits I think
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • The bulldog tragician
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 1975

                              Originally posted by GVGjr

                              This is just a scenario, I don't expect many people will see it like this but here goes:

                              Sydney might start off with a 1st round pick offer. If say the AFL offered them $250K a year Ambassadors allowance outside of the cap it could be an incentive for them to offer a bit more perhaps a 1st and 2nd round pick.
                              The Dogs do a bit better than expected and get 600K+ off the books.
                              The AFL can sell how they're able to work with team to enhance indigenous players in the competition.
                              The Swans get the key forward they need and a bit of relief in the cap.

                              Jamarra sitting out another season is bad for everyone.

                              Many of our supporters will be filthy with that sort of return but the more reasonable ones won't feel likely we have been ripped off again.
                              Thanks for the explanation of one of the possibilities.
                              [url]www.bulldogtragician.com[/url] A blog about being a lifelong fan of the Dogs and our quixotic attempt to replicate 1954. AND WE DID
                              Author of [URL="http://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/mighty-west"]"The Mighty West: the Bulldogs journey from daydream believers to premiership heroes[/URL]"
                              Twitter @bulldogstragic

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66280

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost

                                If we got a first rounder we'd be making out like bandits I think
                                Talk to him
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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