Always Right Match Committee R3 vs Carlton 2025

[BontlowSzn]

Duryea has to come out of the side. I know Collingwoods smalls were fairly well held, but some of his skill errors and decision making was really poor. And quite frankly it's been really poor during the practice matches and the first 2 rounds. He's been such a great pick up and reliable. Maybe went a year too long..

[Critter]

Can’t argue against this

[Bornadog]

Duryea has to come out of the side. I know Collingwoods smalls were fairly well held, but some of his skill errors and decision making was really poor. And quite frankly it's been really poor during the practice matches and the first 2 rounds. He's been such a great pick up and reliable. Maybe went a year too long..

Carlton don't have any smalls of note, so maybe we can drop him

[jazzadogs]

Duryea has to come out of the side. I know Collingwoods smalls were fairly well held, but some of his skill errors and decision making was really poor. And quite frankly it's been really poor during the practice matches and the first 2 rounds. He's been such a great pick up and reliable. Maybe went a year too long..

You're not wrong that he has been poor but the cupboard is pretty bare. Who do you propose comes in for him? How are you structuring the defence without him?

I wonder what he has added to our team defence/setup as an on field coach, and how important that has been, and whether that has countered his 1v1 losses...

[soupman]

Im content with Duryea holding his spot until we get more of our top end back.

Aside from maybe Cleary, there is no one who plays his role pushing for a spot, and with no Jones he is one of the only leaders for our defensive unit out there.

[GVGjr]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

[SonofScray]

RUOK?

We might see him swung forward to break glass like he was late on Friday but otherwise, don’t mess with the form.

[Critter]

Lobb has been a revelation at CHB and the move has been an absolute win/win for club and player. I don't see the benefit of bringing this undone by moving him forward. I do like the idea of 3 talls up forward but I think the better move would be to bring in Croft to support Naughton and Darcy.

[lemmon]

You're not wrong that he has been poor but the cupboard is pretty bare. Who do you propose comes in for him? How are you structuring the defence without him?

I wonder what he has added to our team defence/setup as an on field coach, and how important that has been, and whether that has countered his 1v1 losses...

I'd just leave Williams back and bring Jones / JOD in for Duryea.

That leaves Lobb, Buku and Jones/JOD as the three taller types.

I think Williams can play hybrid (which Duryea does a lot of the time anyway), Bramble, Gallagher and Dale on their smalls.

Williams was poor against North but looked great in the backline against Collingwood and I don't think we missed him on a wing.

[chef]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

I don't like the idea of flirting with Lobbs form now that he looks an AA CHB, plus 2 talls up forward is a better mix in terms of keeping the ball in the 50 once it comes to ground.

[Scorlibo]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

I'm just not convinced that playing 3 tall forwards is the right choice in the modern game. Tall forwards are more role players than ever before, and playing three talls last year didn't exactly work out well for us. A lot of flying for the same ball, and shifting Naughton up the ground to ameliorate that situation.

The Darcy-Naughton combination looks threatening to me, and the smalls have felt more involved in the first two rounds - particularly Vandermeer who's become somewhat of a playmaker (?).

Add to all that we have no reason to place much trust in Khamis, O'Donnell, Busslinger or Gardner. We know that Lobb can be effective in that role, and we're coming up against one of the best one-two punch key forward combinations in the league.

I will say that there's a fair case for giving the second ruck duties to Naughton based on the Pies game.

[Bulldog Joe]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

Absolute not on the agenda.

Lobb has been a rock at the back and seems to have found his position.

He is s strength that he never was forward.

Any forward stints for Rory should only be as a swingman looking for a long goal near the end as we did against Collingwood.

[EasternWest]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

Can someone tell GVG his account has been hacked?

Lobb as a forward for us was terribly underwhelming, but in the backline he's been amazing. Defensive play aside, I've been super impressed with his decision making. A revelation.

Should never set foot in the forward fifty again.

[Bornadog]

I'm just not convinced that playing 3 tall forwards is the right choice in the modern game. Tall forwards are more role players than ever before, and playing three talls last year didn't exactly work out well for us. A lot of flying for the same ball, and shifting Naughton up the ground to ameliorate that situation.

The Darcy-Naughton combination looks threatening to me, and the smalls have felt more involved in the first two rounds - particularly Vandermeer who's become somewhat of a playmaker (?).

Add to all that we have no reason to place much trust in Khamis, O'Donnell, Busslinger or Gardner. We know that Lobb can be effective in that role, and we're coming up against one of the best one-two punch key forward combinations in the league.

I will say that there's a fair case for giving the second ruck duties to Naughton based on the Pies game.

Can't agree that three talls didn't work for us last year. We kicked the second highest score in the AFL and the three boys kicked 116 goals between them. In reality, as Bevo said, very rarely did we have three at once in the Forward 50 - maybe 10 minutes a quarter. It also solved our second ruck issue. Last year we also resolved the issue of 3 flying for the ball at once. Yes, it was an issue in 2023, but that has been fixed.

When Naughton was in the ruck on Friday, there was a bit of a hole left and you had the defenders all concentrating on Darcy, which made it hard for him.

However, I would not take Lobb away from the backline, but rather we consider maybe Gardner or Croft to come in as the third tall. Croft very raw, but might be a good game for him to come in against a team lacking quality backman. Another alternative is to bring in Jones, and JOD and maybe play JOD forward?

[Mofra]

You're not wrong that he has been poor but the cupboard is pretty bare. Who do you propose comes in for him? How are you structuring the defence without him?

I wonder what he has added to our team defence/setup as an on field coach, and how important that has been, and whether that has countered his 1v1 losses...

Baker spent minutes back during the pre-season.

Khamis-Jones-Bramble
Dale-Lobb-Baker

Gags bench spot. 7 Defenders, and that's with Williams pushing up to a wing.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

I know i will get little to no support for this suggestion but now that Lobb has been cleared should we consider playing him forward against Carlton?
We planned the season for 3 tall forwards but with Ugle-Hagan missing we have settled for 2.
Darcy looks capable of ripping games apart but also needs to do some ruck work and even Naughton did as well.
Could moving Lobb forward stretch opposition defenders and him taking stints in the ruck and help keep Darcy forward more?
Ut also really looks like English needs more support.

Bring in JOD and Busslinger or Gardner and see if we can somehow cover Carlton's key forwards.

Talk me out of it?

Aside from the fact Lobb shouldn't be moved from the backline at all, did we actually plan for 3 tall forwards this season? We knew about Jamarras issues well before preseason and would never have trained with him.

I think EW is right. Your account got hacked or something has riled you up and you're just looking for a reason to take someone to the nets.

[Grantysghost]

The blue lobster is bound to the deep reaches of defence.

[GVGjr]

Aside from the fact Lobb shouldn't be moved from the backline at all, did we actually plan for 3 tall forwards this season? We knew about Jamarras issues well before preseason and would never have trained with him.

I think EW is right. Your account got hacked or something has riled you up and you're just looking for a reason to take someone to the nets.

So you're saying Marra is somewhat surplus to our needs and we may not be playing him if he was good to go anyway?
Darcy is capable of winning games up forward but he will have to play in the ruck
English is struggling and probably needs more support not less.
Naughton and Freijah taking some ruck work is risky in my opinion.
Lobb moving forward helps keep Darcy forward, helps English and makes sure we don't have to ruck Naughton or Freijah.

I know it exposes our back line but it could fix some of our challenges.