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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10241

    #46
    Originally posted by azabob

    Come on man. You need to take your personal bias aside. No way you can drop Poulter instead of VDM.
    Honestly I forgot VDM was even in the team. Good point and you’re right.

    EDIT - I’m not ever dropping my personal biases though sorry not sorry
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • Dogs 24/7
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 1255

      #47
      Originally posted by doggies ftw

      I don’t actually think this will happen, it’s a bit of a change up from our normal 7 defenders setup but I really like this and think it makes our side stronger defensively as well as more damaging in the front half.

      Cleary Buss JOD
      Dale Lobb Bramble

      Freijah Libba Williams
      English Bont Libba

      Kennedy Naughty Sanders
      Poulter Darcy West

      Garcia JJ Sellwood McNeil - sub Baker

      In: Sellwood
      Out: VDM

      I really liked JJs game - I think he played much higher than usual and than the other two running defenders (mostly following Jones far up the ground) but his closing speed is still the best in the side and I like it in our front half (coming up from def/wing). Having him sitting just out of the fwd 50 picking off the exits is a huge defensive advantage. I think he’s at his best when he sees an intercept opportunity, picks up an extra yard of pace.

      I still think Jj, Bramble & Dale all in defence is too suspect. I want Sellwood in to add a more defensive edge to our backline - he has some real **** about him, I think him & Cleary are both versatile enough to take the best smalls or mediums, offer some drive out of defence and chop out the talls aerially. Sellwood is built for our game style to use his athleticism to chop out our defense out the back. Both can sit on a tall making it more likely we can roll Lobb through the ruck (which is an absolute MUST)

      What I think bringing Sellwood in does is frees up one of Dale, Bramble & JJ to move further up the ground and become a more offensive threat and add some pace to the front of the ground which we still don’t really have with Williams/Freijah on the wing & Sanders/Kennedy HFF etc I think it opens up another more damaging aspect to this side whilst not hurting our run out of the backline as I think you only ever need 2 of the 3 down back.

      Could open the possibility to play Dale a bit more like NWM and get him using the ball in the front half. Push JJ high like he did on Thursday etc - it just really opens up our game.

      So in that scenario I have our 3 wing rotations as Williams, Freijah & one of Dale, JJ, Bramble rotating through to add pace

      Baker very stiff, he really was good but I like him as sub and still can’t trust him in a high pressure game (which Thursday wasn’t). Poulter and McNeil keep their spots after good games but have to keep going as they have Davo, Harmes, Dolan etc red hot pushing for their spots.

      So a little left field & a different setup - and I don’t expect this to happen. But I think that makes us a better side and would love to see it. Think much more likely to beat a good team in finals and defend better against the best with that line up.
      Love the passion and left of field suggestions and of course the backing of Sellwood but I do want to question why playing 8 defenders might be worth it against the Dee's?
      As others have mentioned it's not like Sellwood has shown and ability to be a lock down player and despite his prowess in reading the kicks into the forward line and his ability to intercepted I'd be concerned about him playing on a tall.
      Which match up do you see for him?

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      • doggies ftw
        Senior Player
        • Dec 2013
        • 1002

        #48
        Originally posted by Danjul

        I really don’t understand this.

        Baker has been starting 22 in 5 games this season. Carlton, Freo, Geelong, Essendon and GWS. Three of these are top 8 and potential finalists.

        Against Carlton he came off early, playing 60% game time. He had 10 kicks and his disposal efficiency was the same as Freijah, Davidson, Kennedy and Harmes.

        Against Freo he had 17 kicks, 1 behind Dale who had the most. He had 5 clangers, 1 behind Kennedy who holds the club record of 12 in a game this year.

        Against Geelong he was close to our best player in the first half. Overall disposal efficiency was the same as JJ, Freijah , Duryea, Richards and Harmes. The reason we lost that game was the forwards refused to kick goals.

        We can all remember his last two games because they have just happened. His disposal efficiency was 100% and 93%. He was the most efficient player over the two games. You can’t criticise him until you have finished criticising numerous others.

        Against GWS he was given 70% game time. Coming on in short bursts to use speed as an impact player. We don’t have others who can do this.

        He is a dasher, takes on the opposition and kicks to gets high metres gained. Makes some mistakes but no more than others in the same circumstances.

        I want half of the team to revert to his game style. Then we would not be sweating about making finals.
        Fair enough you’re probably right he’s been better than I’ve given him credit for. Hard to argue with his stats and he’s doing the job asked of him - personally I just have others ahead of him but as I mentioned I don’t expect this to happen anyway. I do worry about his disposal in high pressure games - de% doesn’t tell the full picture, but as long as he keeps to his strengths and kicks long majority of his possessions it shouldn’t be too much of an issue.

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        • doggies ftw
          Senior Player
          • Dec 2013
          • 1002

          #49
          Originally posted by Dogs 24/7

          Love the passion and left of field suggestions and of course the backing of Sellwood but I do want to question why playing 8 defenders might be worth it against the Dee's?
          As others have mentioned it's not like Sellwood has shown and ability to be a lock down player and despite his prowess in reading the kicks into the forward line and his ability to intercepted I'd be concerned about him playing on a tall.
          Which match up do you see for him?
          For mine it’s less about the dees and more about settling on a line up for the final 5 games (should we make it that far) and the 8th defender is just as much about releasing one of the 3 running smalls to spend time further up the ground and make us more dangerous in the front half too.

          For the Dees in particular I could see him playing on any of Melksham, Fritsch or Pickett. Petty & JVR taken by Buss & JOD, Lobb playing off Fritsch who doesn’t really have a defensive bone in his body so he can focus on intercepting. Cleary & Sellwood our best two smaller defenders 1on1 with Melksham & Pickett.

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          • Garbs_7
            Rookie List
            • Jan 2025
            • 144

            #50
            Yeah easy one for me personally this week,

            Harmes in for VDM.

            Freijah maybe needs a rest as his output has been a little down. Young guy, long season etc, wouldn't be the worst thing if he started as sub this week.

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            • Rusty12
              Draftee
              • Dec 2024
              • 682

              #51
              Originally posted by Garbs_7
              Yeah easy one for me personally this week,

              Harmes in for VDM.

              Freijah maybe needs a rest as his output has been a little down. Young guy, long season etc, wouldn't be the worst thing if he started as sub this week.
              Good solution.
              I like this, wanted to get Harmes in, but not as sub.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15112

                #52
                Originally posted by Garbs_7
                Yeah easy one for me personally this week,

                Harmes in for VDM.

                Freijah maybe needs a rest as his output has been a little down. Young guy, long season etc, wouldn't be the worst thing if he started as sub this week.
                I agree, hopefully the 10 day break helps. He's only 19
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • Bumper Bulldogs
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3045

                  #53
                  I hate hearing the new if a coach sacking the week we play a team. This game just got a lot more difficult. Side generally come out pumped up after a coach sacking
                  BB.

                  Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                  • Mat Lyons
                    Rookie List
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 257

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                    I hate hearing the new if a coach sacking the week we play a team. This game just got a lot more difficult. Side generally come out pumped up after a coach sacking
                    Historical stats reveal that teams have a 41.5% success rate after a coach sacking. So, more likely to still lose than win, but it certainly would show a spike in performance, as the season's win:loss ratio of a sacked-coach-team is surely below 41% for that season.

                    Personally, I see the timing as a blessing, as it will sharpen our focus and resolve even more, ready for the fight the Demons will show.

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                    • Rusty12
                      Draftee
                      • Dec 2024
                      • 682

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Mat Lyons

                      Historical stats reveal that teams have a 41.5% success rate after a coach sacking. So, more likely to still lose than win, but it certainly would show a spike in performance, as the season's win:loss ratio of a sacked-coach-team is surely below 41% for that season.

                      Personally, I see the timing as a blessing, as it will sharpen our focus and resolve even more, ready for the fight the Demons will show.
                      Yep, agree, It is irrelevant

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                      • meenies
                        Rookie List
                        • May 2014
                        • 216

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Mat Lyons

                        Historical stats reveal that teams have a 41.5% success rate after a coach sacking. So, more likely to still lose than win, but it certainly would show a spike in performance, as the season's win:loss ratio of a sacked-coach-team is surely below 41% for that season.

                        Personally, I see the timing as a blessing, as it will sharpen our focus and resolve even more, ready for the fight the Demons will show.
                        Mat, do you know what our record is? I seem to think we lose more than win.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67678

                          #57
                          Originally posted by meenies

                          Mat, do you know what our record is? I seem to think we lose more than win.
                          According to AI. Melbourne features twice and lost both times
                          Coach Team Year Round of Sacking Caretaker Coach Next Game Result
                          Dean Bailey Melbourne 2011 19 Todd Viney Lost to Carlton by 76 points
                          Michael Voss Brisbane Lions 2013 20 Mark Harvey Defeated GWS Giants by 60 points
                          Mark Neeld Melbourne 2013 11 Neil Craig Lost to Collingwood by 83 points
                          Brendon Bolton Carlton 2019 11 David Teague Defeated Brisbane by 15 points
                          David Teague Carlton 2021 End of season Michael Voss (new coach) Defeated Richmond by 25 points
                          Stuart Dew Gold Coast Suns 2023 17 Steven King Defeated St Kilda by 26 points


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                          • Rusty12
                            Draftee
                            • Dec 2024
                            • 682

                            #58
                            Anyone else get the feeling the Dees senior playing group, went to Goodies and got shit faced last night?

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                            • BontlowSzn
                              Rookie List
                              • Dec 2024
                              • 110

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                              I hate hearing the new if a coach sacking the week we play a team. This game just got a lot more difficult. Side generally come out pumped up after a coach sacking
                              If Goodwin was coaching a farewell game against us this weekend then I'd be slightly concerned. Seems very well liked by the playing group. I actually think him getting sacked and gone already will have the opposite effect.

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                              • Pleather Sole
                                Draftee
                                • Jan 2024
                                • 506

                                #60
                                Unfortunately Harmes has a flu relapse so its no go for him.

                                Out Vandermeer
                                In Dolan as sub

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