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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11538

    #61
    Originally posted by Rusty12
    Port need 2 X top 10 picks, guaranteed, to get things started, from there, a late first, early 2nd or a player like Garcia.
    Two top 10 picks and Garcia - it's a lot but I would sign off on that today. It shows due respect to Port/Butters for the value of their biggest asset, it gives Butters the chance to get back home a year earlier than planned (and if messaged right by all concerned it doesn't look mercenary), and it also gives Garcia a chance to cement his place at senior level with a suitor who was keen on him previously, and in a position that could at least fill a portion of the gap left behind by Butters. We could even get a couple of later picks coming back to us in 2026 to help with some points next year (if Port weren't going to use these).

    I hope we are working behind the scenes to try and make something like that happen this year. Next year will be a total shit-fight that is best avoided.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • Pedro Sanchez
      Rookie List
      • Jan 2008
      • 377

      #62
      Originally posted by Sedat
      Two top 10 picks and Garcia - it's a lot but I would sign off on that today. It shows due respect to Port/Butters for the value of their biggest asset, it gives Butters the chance to get back home a year earlier than planned (and if messaged right by all concerned it doesn't look mercenary), and it also gives Garcia a chance to cement his place at senior level with a suitor who was keen on him previously, and in a position that could at least fill a portion of the gap left behind by Butters. We could even get a couple of later picks coming back to us in 2026 to help with some points next year (if Port weren't going to use these).

      I hope we are working behind the scenes to try and make something like that happen this year. Next year will be a total shit-fight that is best avoided.
      So the magic question... How do we end up with two top 10 picks to actually do that trade?

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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11538

        #63
        Originally posted by Pedro Sanchez

        So the magic question... How do we end up with two top 10 picks to actually do that trade?
        Package up 10 and 28 this year for one of GC's top 10 picks.
        Work the Khamis and JUH deals into some sort of mid-level pick next year, and package this up with our 1st rounder next year for another upgrade.

        It's difficult but not impossible. Happy to let Sam Power do his thing.
        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 19213

          #64
          I don't think we have anything to satisfy them missing a year of Butters in their side and getting the same next season with more interested teams.
          He's just too good a player to let go in contract.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • bulldogsthru&thru
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • May 2011
            • 8008

            #65
            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            I don't think we have anything to satisfy them missing a year of Butters in their side and getting the same next season with more interested teams.
            He's just too good a player to let go in contract.
            As always it comes down to the player. Is Butters hellbent on coming to us? If so it wont matter about other teams' offers.

            Ultimately if Butters isnt 100% locked in on us then he wont come here.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11922

              #66
              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              I don't think we have anything to satisfy them missing a year of Butters in their side and getting the same next season with more interested teams.
              He's just too good a player to let go in contract.
              I guess you could view it as missing the distraction, getting a kid or two in earlier to start developing, unlocking more pieces for their F/S prospect next year.

              On the other hand Port supporters think it'll maybe be like Bergman and Butters will decide to stay after all
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Rusty12
                Draftee
                • Dec 2024
                • 667

                #67
                I do not feel sorry for any player who takes the big money and the long-term deal that the ink is barely dry on and then wants out. The club does, and should have all of the leverage in that scenario, and if the club does not get the mother load in return, then too bad, see out the contract, at least for now.

                I doubt anyone actually knows the truth that is claiming to, but IF
                Butters is 100% coming home, and if allowed, would 100% come home right away. Port is setting a poor culture and care for their people, by holding him to the final year of his rookie extension, in a year that is clearly a complete rebuild.
                The deal will not gett better, maybe similar, maybe worse at the end of 2026, but never better.

                If the dogs' offer is some garbage like pick 10, 28 and a future 1st, then that's on us, and not Port, just like it was on Essendon, and not the dogs re: Dunkley.

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11922

                  #68
                  Supposedly toured the facilities today. Hope we have something on the backburner with Port but I don't know I think they hold firm
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45265

                    #69
                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    Supposedly toured the facilities today. Hope we have something on the backburner with Port but I don't know I think they hold firm
                    Butters needs to do some of the heavy lifting and accept some of the consequences that go with it.
                    If he really wants to move back to Melbourne this year and be a part of the Bulldogs then he needs to make a clear statement that he wants to come home now.
                    The Port supporters and even some of his team mates will react poorly to this but if he just sits there quietly Port will not be sufficiently motivated to even consider offers.
                    It's time for him to step up and make a clear statement.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 8008

                      #70
                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      Supposedly toured the facilities today. Hope we have something on the backburner with Port but I don't know I think they hold firm
                      Is there any substance to this or just a BF comment that's spread?

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13354

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Pedro Sanchez

                        So the magic question... How do we end up with two top 10 picks to actually do that trade?
                        Sanders
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Aidan7557
                          Rookie List
                          • Jan 2025
                          • 232

                          #72
                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

                          Is there any substance to this or just a BF comment that's spread?
                          He has toured facilities but months ago.

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                          • mighty_west
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3480

                            #73
                            I hope i'm wrong and we'll need to throw the kitchen sink to make any kind of deal for Butters this year but just can't see it happening, they'll simply refuse a trade plus by the sounds of it he seems like he's too respectful of a young man to push it (a bit like us as a club), plus the only way we could make it happen would be to get the Crows first rounder for Sanders and use that pick 14 with our pick 10 plus our first next year, would offer something like two firsts and a player like Garcia but just can't see Port accepting that, maybe two firsts AND Sanders., but i'm not sure we would or should do that.

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11922

                              #74
                              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

                              Is there any substance to this or just a BF comment that's spread?
                              Just BF, the supposed word of a staff member at WO
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11383

                                #75
                                Originally posted by GVGjr

                                Butters needs to do some of the heavy lifting and accept some of the consequences that go with it.
                                If he really wants to move back to Melbourne this year and be a part of the Bulldogs then he needs to make a clear statement that he wants to come home now.
                                The Port supporters and even some of his team mates will react poorly to this but if he just sits there quietly Port will not be sufficiently motivated to even consider offers.
                                It's time for him to step up and make a clear statement.
                                Yeah this is the crux of it.

                                Would appear obvious he would prefer to be in Victoria, but if he wants to do it as soon as next year, he's going to have to be OK with being uncomfortable with a situation where he publicly requests a trade.

                                Not sure I see that happening. We need to be prepared to overpay to get it done now and not wait a year though.
                                W00F!

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