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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by azabob
    Beveridge was asked about Docherty returning to play for Carlton and where is Bailey Smith up to in his rehab...

    Beveridge said that David Young is the club surgeon, and he has done an outstanding job for such a long period.

    BUT Young did not operate on Bailey Smith...
    That’s a nice answer. Politics after footy maybe.
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    • jDogs
      Rookie List
      • Nov 2023
      • 137

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by azabob
      Beveridge was asked about Docherty returning to play for Carlton and where is Bailey Smith up to in his rehab...

      Beveridge said that David Young is the club surgeon, and he has done an outstanding job for such a long period.

      BUT Young did not operate on Bailey Smith...
      He also said stated that Young didn't operate on Smith but that they were sticking to the 11 month protocols for recovery.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65850

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by jDogs
        He also said stated that Young didn't operate on Smith but that they were sticking to the 11 month protocols for recovery.
        I think this would frustrate Smith. I think he is itching to play
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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15275

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I think this would frustrate Smith. I think he is itching to play
          Maybe the club have said we're happy to fast track your recovery if you commit to the club, otherwise you can sit it out, so your value doesn't drop if you do it again.

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          • Pleather Sole
            Rookie List
            • Jan 2024
            • 241

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I think this would frustrate Smith. I think he is itching to play
            He also said its different to Docherty cause he's nearer the end of his career, and Carlton are Sam are more willing to risk injury from early return given his multiple challenges. Makes sense.

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            • Pleather Sole
              Rookie List
              • Jan 2024
              • 241

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Does anyone know about the medical insurance specs of player injuries? Are they predicated on existing agreements between a club and its insurer and or is it also under the auspices of the Players Association? I'm wondering about risk/liability. We're seeing payouts on concussion, loss of income etc I'd imagine there are concerns within the industry about players being rushed back in or prematurely without adequate assessments that potentially shorten or end a career due to 'protocols' or insufficient information re scans (Picken) not being followed. Of course individual contracts have impact but I have been ruminating a little on who is accountable in the long run if the wheels fall off for a player/s. These are big salaries, big potential losses.

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              • Rocket Science
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2007
                • 4847

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                In more ruthless terms, at this point he's simply an asset we need to leverage maximum return for.

                So hat tip to the club for being risk averse on notions of a feelgood return and having him promptly break down or the not unlikely prospect he shows poorly. Not to mention sparing us the cringe fest that'd pervade any farewell game.

                Sit tight cowboy, you'll be streaming down that narrow wing soon enough.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65850

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Maybe the club have said we're happy to fast track your recovery if you commit to the club, otherwise you can sit it out, so your value doesn't drop if you do it again.
                  yes possible.

                  He needs to come out and just say what the hell he is doing - ie staying or going
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                  • Bullies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 1802

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Maybe the club have said we're happy to fast track your recovery if you commit to the club, otherwise you can sit it out, so your value doesn't drop if you do it again.
                    It will be interesting to see what comes out when the season ends. The club have done well to say nothing and keep it professional. i think you may find Smith's Management said to the club at the start of the year he would not play again at the risk of comprimising his career. .

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15177

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Unsure if Shaun Mannagh has been mentioned but could we somehow include him as part of the trade for Smith?
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Bullies
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1802

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Unsure if Shaun Mannagh has been mentioned but could we somehow include him as part of the trade for Smith?
                        He was in our backyard for 2 years and we overlooked him each time and didn't take the risk when he was exactly what we needed.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44102

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          Unsure if Shaun Mannagh has been mentioned but could we somehow include him as part of the trade for Smith?
                          He's done very well hasn't he and he could have been a handy player for us? He was a hard player for us to bring in at the National Draft given our early picks went on Sanders and Croft and he was taken by Geelong before we selected Freijah.
                          I'm not sure how positive some of our supporters would have been about bringing in a 26yo from the VFL
                          Apparently as far as we were concerned it was either Poutler or Mannagh in the previous preseason draft.
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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11812

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            He's done very well hasn't he and he could have been a handy player for us? He was a hard player for us to bring in at the National Draft given our early picks went on Sanders and Croft and he was taken by Geelong before we selected Freijah.
                            I'm not sure how positive some of our supporters would have been about bringing in a 26yo from the VFL
                            Apparently as far as we were concerned it was either Poutler or Mannagh in the previous preseason draft.
                            oof...
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                            • Vred
                              Senior Player
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 1295

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by Bullies
                              He was in our backyard for 2 years and we overlooked him each time and didn't take the risk when he was exactly what we needed.
                              Was a lot of talk over on BF that Mannagh did a medical with us pre-draft and we were keen to take him if he slipped to one of our picks.

                              Sadly, he did not.

                              I'd love to have im on the list, I see alot of upside with him.
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                              • jazzadogs
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 5535

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by Vred
                                Was a lot of talk over on BF that Mannagh did a medical with us pre-draft and we were keen to take him if he slipped to one of our picks.

                                Sadly, he did not.

                                I'd love to have im on the list, I see alot of upside with him.
                                He only came to my attention after his grand final performance but I was very keen for us to draft him if available. With our first live pick at 45 it was always unlikely, and you can't fault our choice of Freijah regardless.

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