Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[AshMac]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Ok, now for the million-dollar questions.

Would woofers like to keep Baz at Western Oval, and what would you give money wise to keep him?

Hard no.

I think people forget just how bad he was last year and the year before. Couple that with a self first attitude and he doesn?t strike me as a great teammate let alone player of recent times

[azabob]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I'd be very open to getting him in.

My gut says he's already going to an Adelaide side though

Feels like a Dimma play.

No way you drop this guy.

I do not see the appeal in Luckosius. Where do you see him playing?

[Mofra]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Ok, now for the million-dollar questions.

Would woofers like to keep Baz at Western Oval, and what would you give money wise to keep him?

I'd go choose to a million to sign Ed Richards long term instead, and hit the draft with whatever we get for Baz.

[Bullies]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Hard no.

I think people forget just how bad he was last year and the year before. Couple that with a self first attitude and he doesn?t strike me as a great teammate let alone player of recent times

I'd also be happy to let him to go to the pre season draft if the Cats won't give what we want.

[Happy Days]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I have already moved on in my mind brain and would be happy to trade him as soon as anyone offers a pick inside 15. It already feels like he’s left so anything we get in return seems like a bonus.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I do not see the appeal in Luckosius. Where do you see him playing?

I'd say there is zero chance he would consider coming to Melbourne anyway but he should be a decent 3rd tall defender or could swing forward when required. He's normally a very good kick. I doubt we would have him on the radar.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Hard no.

I think people forget just how bad he was last year and the year before. Couple that with a self first attitude and he doesn?t strike me as a great teammate let alone player of recent times

Smith was unbelievable in 2022 until his suspension.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I do not see the appeal in Luckosius. Where do you see him playing?

I rate Lukosius tbh. He has elite skills, has a tank, and is 195cm. He can play at either end and would even suit spells on the wing, with the knock being that he struggles to match the big keys for strength and probably needs to be the third tall/defender. He is pretty laconic too, I suspect Hardwick would see him as a bit soft

He kicked 40 goals last year (20 this year), but previously they did use him a lot off HB and tried to get the ball in his hands. He can bite off those zone breaking kicks.

I am not so sure he wouldn't entertain a move to Melbourne- he turned down Adelaide's offers to stay in GC after all. It might just be a case of everyone assuming he is going back there- it wouldn't hurt to ask the question.

Another tall is maybe surplus to our needs, but he is only 24 and would be an upgrade on Buku/Coffield, or could maybe allow Naughton to return to his spiritual home down back.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Smith was unbelievable in 2022 until his suspension.

Yeh he started the year very very well. Even later in the year he was playing a difficult role well. Ed has shown he is a better two way mid now though which would continue to limit his CBAs.

[ledge]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Smith was unbelievable in 2022 until his suspension.

Well looks like both have moved on, has it affected our results we will never know but the positive is we certainly get a decent pick / player for him and maybe we get one of a position we need, I think we need to start targeting positions of player retirement in the next two years .. a libba type maybe or a Duryea, jones, Keath, I look at our vfl team and we have definitely got players in to take over future retirees .
It will be interesting to see as our full list is extremely rounded.

[Bornadog]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Yeh he started the year very very well. Even later in the year he was playing a difficult role well. Ed has shown he is a better two way mid now though which would continue to limit his CBAs.

The mids are ageing and he is only 23.

If he doesn't want to be at the club, well we can't force him, but we also don't want to give him away. Two first rounders or PSD are my thoughts. I know that is giving him away, but also different to accepting a 2nd rounder or something stupid like the Dunkley deal.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

We already have replaced Smith with Sanders.
We are separated but living under the same roof with Smith.
De facto and defunct.

[hujsh]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

The mids are ageing and he is only 23.

If he doesn't want to be at the club, well we can't force him, but we also don't want to give him away. Two first rounders or PSD are my thoughts. I know that is giving him away, but also different to accepting a 2nd rounder or something stupid like the Dunkley deal.

Mids might be aging but 2 of them are in AA/career best form so it makes more sense to prepare Sanders, play Richards and let Bont keep Bonting than expect Smith to wait for his turn at 23. There's also Gags coming along. Him and Sanders seem like appropriate replacements for Libba and Treloar.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

The mids are ageing and he is only 23.

If he doesn't want to be at the club, well we can't force him, but we also don't want to give him away. Two first rounders or PSD are my thoughts. I know that is giving him away, but also different to accepting a 2nd rounder or something stupid like the Dunkley deal.

I'm not sure Bailey's thoughts extend past the immediate future and his bank balance.

In 2025 he would still be behind Bont, Treloar and Richards for CBAs, possibly still Libba and competing with Sanders. He wants to be the big fish breaking out of the centre with no defensive accountability.

I completely agree that our list profile says we need to keep the 23yo elite quick mid-forward, but it's not going to happen.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

I'm not sure Bailey's thoughts extend past the immediate future and his bank balance.

In 2025 he would still be behind Bont, Treloar and Richards for CBAs, possibly still Libba and competing with Sanders. He wants to be the big fish breaking out of the centre with no defensive accountability.

I completely agree that our list profile says we need to keep the 23yo elite quick mid-forward, but it's not going to happen.

And he can’t hit a target to save himself.