Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[Bornadog]

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[jazzadogs]

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I hate how they always frame it as 'the dogs want more' not 'anybody who follows AFL can see that he is worth more than that'.

[Happy Days]

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Midweek Tackle are the biggest AFL bootlickers in media for anyone who wasn’t aware.

[GVGjr]

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I hate how they always frame it as 'the dogs want more' not 'anybody who follows AFL can see that he is worth more than that'.

I really wish they'd just say the Dogs won't accept unders for player who's best football is still in front of him.

[Grantysghost]

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I hate how they always frame it as 'the dogs want more' not 'anybody who follows AFL can see that he is worth more than that'.

Yeah but he has no contract and wants to go

If I were the cats I'd be offering two thirds of fk all.

[Bullies]

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I really wish they'd just say the Dogs won't accept unders for player who's best football is still in front of him.

We'll have to pay the "shit club tax" and will get unders. Same when we want someone we pay overs. It is how it works not being a part of the "big clubs".

[Go_Dogs]

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We hold the cards here.

Let’s walk him if we don’t get what we want.

Maybe he still ends up at the Cats via that pathway if he can scare others off, but maybe he doesn’t.

Pony up Carters.

[DOG GOD]

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We hold the cards here.

Let’s walk him if we don’t get what we want.

Maybe he still ends up at the Cats via that pathway if he can scare others off, but maybe he doesn’t.

Pony up Carters.

I don’t reckon we, as a club would have the balls to send him to the PSD. 30 mins before the deadline we will accept their pick 15(to become 21) and that will be it, just to get him out of the club.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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What's the minimum we accept?

If it's pick 20 + a second round and we're sending anything back I'm demanding we walk away.

I wouldn't even want us to accept pick #20 & a second on it's own.

[dog town]

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I’m really torn, walking him to PSD galvanises the club but we really need the picks. We gave up any leverage we had by holding him last year.

[jeemak]

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Yeah but he has no contract and wants to go

If I were the cats I'd be offering two thirds of fk all.

That's because you're a ****?

I know you're not, but that flippant attitude is why the world is a disgustingly shit place to operate if you have a modicum of decency.

Geelong isn't going to be a better club by treating other clubs like shit. See how that worked out for Essendon. Eventually it will hurt them, their time will come.

[GVGjr]

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We hold the cards here.

Let’s walk him if we don’t get what we want.

Maybe he still ends up at the Cats via that pathway if he can scare others off, but maybe he doesn’t.

Pony up Carters.

Do players entering the PSD have to nominate terms? That's probably not something the Cats want to be made known. They have a very strict payment structure with players and it might not be in their interest to have that information leaked out.
I think we have a few cards to play so I don't see it was all gloomy as some others clearly see it.
Smith being part of the Connors group makes it a bit harder to walk him to the PSD but it is an option because I don't think Connors can ask us to take a lesser deal. He clearly rates his client and must know the Cats do have the capital to offer a fair deal. A pick pushed back to the 20's won't meet that.

This is from their own website:

Contract Negotiation

The art of contract negotiation can be a delicate and protracted process. Experience and timing are crucial. At CSM, we work relentlessly to secure the best deals for clients that are both fair and equitable.

I don't think the Cats would want him to go to the PSD and run the risk of another club selecting him. Connors certainly won't want that to happen. Perhaps he can help us in another deal to land a player we want but they'll have to come up with something good.
Time will tell but I don't see us being forced to accept a really bad deal.

[soupman]

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I'd think PSD would almost be a hollow threat on account clubs don't usually interfere with eachothers deals, however us having a pick before Geelong is the real Trump card. Especially with him not moving for money allegedly it makes it much harder for him to price himself out of anybody else's reach.

I wonder if Bailey would go the Luke Ball route and nominate for the ND instead, and how differently that would play out.

[bulldogtragic]

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I'd think PSD would almost be a hollow threat on account clubs don't usually interfere with eachothers deals, however us having a pick before Geelong is the real Trump card. Especially with him not moving for money allegedly it makes it much harder for him to price himself out of anybody else's reach.

I wonder if Bailey would go the Luke Ball route and nominate for the ND instead, and how differently that would play out.

If we pulled that, that’s his best chance to get to Geelong (ND). I’m not sure he’d reach say 20 though, even with himself putting a bounty on his head.

This is a shit show and only gets worse from here I suspect.

[Grantysghost]

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That's because you're a ****?

I know you're not, but that flippant attitude is why the world is a disgustingly shit place to operate if you have a modicum of decency.

Geelong isn't going to be a better club by treating other clubs like shit. See how that worked out for Essendon. Eventually it will hurt them, their time will come.

Their initial offer is going to be pretty low it's just the way it works.
I personally don't like it, but it's a competition and I get the game.

Personally I love the negotiating, of course if it's done with respect.

Are we considering Bailey's health issues when we think of his value?

Do the Dogs have to fully disclose that to the buyer?

The **** means im a star right?