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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7279

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I don't care if we cop a bad wrap in the media and we should be prepared to ride out a difficult trade period
    I'm happy with this - but if we are clear going in then we wont cop criticism.

    It's well worth the club - it should be Sam Power with Bevo alongside him - coming out and doing a trade primer presser. ALL of the talk will be about Smith. It should be all love and kisses from us and we should 100% include a video montage of all of his great on-field moments that finishes with "The Bulldogs want to thank Bailey for his xx games of incredible service"...and a statement showing all of his achievements.

    Bevo should then talk about the role Bailey has played in our side - that outside/inside role, and talk about how the role that Richards moved into during 2024 was the one we had ear-marked for Baz etc...the plan was always to build his game from the outside in and now he is entering his prime he should be ready to go...he's going to be an amazing player and how we aren't looking forward to seeing a line-up where the oppo includes his name.

    Hand back to Power - talk about similar players and the draft capital exchanged...make it C-L-E-A-R.

    Geelong are going to offer unders but if WE DO THE WORK for the media, they will 100% allow us too and quote us...

    If we take the 'strong, silent approach' as we did with Dunkley then we are going to get raked over the coals again. I don't understand why we don't get on the front foot with this and try and win the media over.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18820

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by mjp
      I'm happy with this - but if we are clear going in then we wont cop criticism.

      It's well worth the club - it should be Sam Power with Bevo alongside him - coming out and doing a trade primer presser. ALL of the talk will be about Smith. It should be all love and kisses from us and we should 100% include a video montage of all of his great on-field moments that finishes with "The Bulldogs want to thank Bailey for his xx games of incredible service"...and a statement showing all of his achievements.

      Bevo should then talk about the role Bailey has played in our side - that outside/inside role, and talk about how the role that Richards moved into during 2024 was the one we had ear-marked for Baz etc...the plan was always to build his game from the outside in and now he is entering his prime he should be ready to go...he's going to be an amazing player and how we aren't looking forward to seeing a line-up where the oppo includes his name.

      Hand back to Power - talk about similar players and the draft capital exchanged...make it C-L-E-A-R.

      Geelong are going to offer unders but if WE DO THE WORK for the media, they will 100% allow us too and quote us...

      If we take the 'strong, silent approach' as we did with Dunkley then we are going to get raked over the coals again. I don't understand why we don't get on the front foot with this and try and win the media over.
      Bevo's ongoing war and inability to "use" the media is part of it. Too emotional; play 4d chess Luke!

      He doesn't have a good relationship with any of the big hitters. Kane, Barrett, Morris.

      He has been better this year, and used them well on 360 standing up for Weightman that definitely galvanised the players.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • The Adelaide Connection
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2009
        • 2728

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by mjp
        I'm happy with this - but if we are clear going in then we wont cop criticism.

        It's well worth the club - it should be Sam Power with Bevo alongside him - coming out and doing a trade primer presser. ALL of the talk will be about Smith. It should be all love and kisses from us and we should 100% include a video montage of all of his great on-field moments that finishes with "The Bulldogs want to thank Bailey for his xx games of incredible service"...and a statement showing all of his achievements.

        Bevo should then talk about the role Bailey has played in our side - that outside/inside role, and talk about how the role that Richards moved into during 2024 was the one we had ear-marked for Baz etc...the plan was always to build his game from the outside in and now he is entering his prime he should be ready to go...he's going to be an amazing player and how we aren't looking forward to seeing a line-up where the oppo includes his name.

        Hand back to Power - talk about similar players and the draft capital exchanged...make it C-L-E-A-R.

        Geelong are going to offer unders but if WE DO THE WORK for the media, they will 100% allow us too and quote us...

        If we take the 'strong, silent approach' as we did with Dunkley then we are going to get raked over the coals again. I don't understand why we don't get on the front foot with this and try and win the media over.
        This is an outstanding post.Who do we email this to en masse?

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44089

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by mjp
          I'm happy with this - but if we are clear going in then we wont cop criticism.

          It's well worth the club - it should be Sam Power with Bevo alongside him - coming out and doing a trade primer presser. ALL of the talk will be about Smith. It should be all love and kisses from us and we should 100% include a video montage of all of his great on-field moments that finishes with "The Bulldogs want to thank Bailey for his xx games of incredible service"...and a statement showing all of his achievements.

          Bevo should then talk about the role Bailey has played in our side - that outside/inside role, and talk about how the role that Richards moved into during 2024 was the one we had ear-marked for Baz etc...the plan was always to build his game from the outside in and now he is entering his prime he should be ready to go...he's going to be an amazing player and how we aren't looking forward to seeing a line-up where the oppo includes his name.

          Hand back to Power - talk about similar players and the draft capital exchanged...make it C-L-E-A-R.

          Geelong are going to offer unders but if WE DO THE WORK for the media, they will 100% allow us too and quote us...

          If we take the 'strong, silent approach' as we did with Dunkley then we are going to get raked over the coals again. I don't understand why we don't get on the front foot with this and try and win the media over.
          Communication is the key. When the Dunkley trade request happened I can recall Power talking to the media and saying we are flexible with our requests with picks this year or next and even players being included would be considered.

          We need to talk up Smith as a player and make it clear we aren't going to lowering our expectations on what we should receive.
          Picks this year and next and/or a player being added to the trade will be considered.
          Mackie already has a reputation of being a stubborn negotiator so the Media will likely focus on that if we are upfront with our requirements.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65834

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Communication is the key. When the Dunkley trade request happened I can recall Power talking to the media and saying we are flexible with our requests with picks this year or next and even players being included would be considered.

            We need to talk up Smith as a player and make it clear we aren't going to lowering our expectations on what we should receive.
            Picks this year and next and/or a player being added to the trade will be considered.
            Mackie already has a reputation of being a stubborn negotiator so the Media will likely focus on that if we are upfront with our requirements.
            This is what I was saying a few pages back, we need to sell Smith and get the best deal. Even see if other clubs are willing to talk to him and sell their Club and convince Smith Geelong is not the only club out there. As Aza said, he is a perfect fit for Sydney the club and Sydney the City.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Countrydog5
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2023
              • 210

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Wouldn't we have a pick before geelong in the PSD anyway? So if we do run with the PSD threat, we just say sorry Baz it looks like you're with us again, bad luck and we'll go again next year to a team who will actually be reasonable. If we move on Macrae and Daniel we'd have the stupid cash he'd put on his head anyway. Funniest thing is he's a player in a position of need, so it wouldn't even bite us to re-draft him before he got to the cats.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44089

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Originally posted by Countrydog5
                Wouldn't we have a pick before geelong in the PSD anyway? So if we do run with the PSD threat, we just say sorry Baz it looks like you're with us again, bad luck and we'll go again next year to a team who will actually be reasonable. If we move on Macrae and Daniel we'd have the stupid cash he'd put on his head anyway. Funniest thing is he's a player in a position of need, so it wouldn't even bite us to re-draft him before he got to the cats.
                I think there is some obscure agreement with the PA that clubs won't do that. In my opinion it's a card that we shouldn't play.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • my plums
                  Rookie List
                  • Aug 2022
                  • 125

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  I think they would take him in the national rather than the pre-season draft.

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11808

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by my plums
                    I think they would take him in the national rather than the pre-season draft.
                    Where we don't have a first round pick
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • JanLorMill
                      WOOF Member
                      • Feb 2023
                      • 1597

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Originally posted by my plums
                      I think they would take him in the national rather than the pre-season draft.
                      Why is that case? I know it happened with Ball but it didn't happen with Martin.

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                      • my plums
                        Rookie List
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 125

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by JanLorMill
                        Why is that case? I know it happened with Ball but it didn't happen with Martin.
                        They could take him with their first rounder in the national. Riskier in the PSD maybe?

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13170

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Bevo's ongoing war and inability to "use" the media is part of it. Too emotional; play 4d chess Luke!

                          He doesn't have a good relationship with any of the big hitters. Kane, Barrett, Morris.

                          He has been better this year, and used them well on 360 standing up for Weightman that definitely galvanised the players.
                          Agreed we've been very vanilla at every trade period since McCartney left.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11808

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by my plums
                            They could take him with their first rounder in the national. Riskier in the PSD maybe?
                            It's an easy free hit for like 14 other clubs if they have the cap space. Maybe you get Smith invested, maybe you get some free draft picks next year when you trade him. Also we could pick him. In the national draft you have to lose something to pick a guy that doesn't want to be there. Way less chance someone picks him before Geelong's first pick there but not without risk
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • JanLorMill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1597

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by my plums
                              They could take him with their first rounder in the national. Riskier in the PSD maybe?
                              That doesn’t really answer my question. Who decides whether he goes in the national or psd?

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14537

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                                That doesn’t really answer my question. Who decides whether he goes in the national or psd?
                                Smith decides.
                                The curse is dead.

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