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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15173

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
    He was posting "Go Dogs" last night. Is there any world where he stays until free agency?
    Honestly I’d be really surprised if he did not sign with us for two more years.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18820

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      He was posting "Go Dogs" last night. Is there any world where he stays until free agency?
      I can't see one.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44086

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by azabob
        What Bailey is forgetting we are closer to a premiership than Collingwood.
        I don't think it's about money or flags for Baz, playing for the biggest club in Melbourne with the opportunities that will open in a marketing sense might be the overriding consideration.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18820

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by azabob
          Honestly I’d be really surprised if he did not sign with us for two more years.
          Why wouldn't this have already happened is always my question. Not like he can improve his form.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I don't think it's about money or flags for Baz, playing for the biggest club in Melbourne with the opportunities that will open in a marketing sense might be the overriding consideration.
            That’s why the PSD is a really effective stick. He won’t be growing his brand at North.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 8875

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              I’d put him in the PSD. Unless we get a good offer, he can build his brand at North or move to West Coast. He gets nothing from me if he burns us.
              I am in this camp too.
              And it's not one for bravado.. It's happened too often with us, a player nominates a club, and we get shafted.

              Stringer to Bombers was one... and I know we brought on the fire sale, by putting him up for sale... but at the time when we secured Schache in the trade period, I thought that trade smelled like desperation from the club to try and put a positive spin on losing Stringer for chips.... I recall at the time the club spruiking how great it was to add a former pick 2.... as if that means anything a couple of years into the system.

              And the Dunkley scenario....

              Nope if Smith burns us,, as BT has said, let him build his brand at North or West Coast.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6759

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Why wouldn't this have already happened is always my question. Not like he can improve his form.
                Only reason would be haggling over dollars.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18820

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  I am in this camp too.
                  And it's not one for bravado.. It's happened too often with us, a player nominates a club, and we get shafted.

                  Stringer to Bombers was one... and I know we brought on the fire sale, by putting him up for sale... but at the time when we secured Schache in the trade period, I thought that trade smelled like desperation from the club to try and put a positive spin on losing Stringer for chips.... I recall at the time the club spruiking how great it was to add a former pick 2.... as if that means anything a couple of years into the system.

                  And the Dunkley scenario....

                  Nope if Smith burns us,, as BT has said, let him build his brand at North or West Coast.
                  My q to that Yhf is : if we had done that to Dunkley, would that have changed Smith's situation?

                  I don't think so. It sounds nice, but we have to take what we can.

                  Why do they want to go is the issue.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                    I am in this camp too.
                    And it's not one for bravado.. It's happened too often with us, a player nominates a club, and we get shafted.

                    Stringer to Bombers was one... and I know we brought on the fire sale, by putting him up for sale... but at the time when we secured Schache in the trade period, I thought that trade smelled like desperation from the club to try and put a positive spin on losing Stringer for chips.... I recall at the time the club spruiking how great it was to add a former pick 2.... as if that means anything a couple of years into the system.

                    And the Dunkley scenario....

                    Nope if Smith burns us,, as BT has said, let him build his brand at North or West Coast.
                    The club desperately needs to draw a line to our players managers who are dealing with clubs and agreeing in principle knowing we are getting screwed. We are not a feeder club to develop talent and get chips back. If a club wants to pay a fair trade for Smith fine. Take it and move on. Otherwise, if we keep doing this it’s going to keep happening. I think Smith facing North or moving to Perth might pressure his new club to make it happen quickly somehow.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18820

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                      Only reason would be haggling over dollars.
                      Yeah maybe, or it's in the queue of deals we have to get done.
                      I'm not confident with Baz.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14068

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        I am in this camp too.
                        And it's not one for bravado.. It's happened too often with us, a player nominates a club, and we get shafted.

                        Stringer to Bombers was one... and I know we brought on the fire sale, by putting him up for sale... but at the time when we secured Schache in the trade period, I thought that trade smelled like desperation from the club to try and put a positive spin on losing Stringer for chips.... I recall at the time the club spruiking how great it was to add a former pick 2.... as if that means anything a couple of years into the system.

                        And the Dunkley scenario....

                        Nope if Smith burns us,, as BT has said, let him build his brand at North or West Coast.
                        Stringer done us over , only one club wanted him so we had no bargaining power except to keep him and that wasn’t going to happen as we kicked him out.
                        Dunkley wanted out and you can’t stop that if they are out of contract, it’s a matter of who he wants to go to, who is competing for him and you can only get what’s on offer or nothing.
                        Smith is much in the Dunkley scenario if he decides to leave.
                        If he wants out it would be interesting to see who he names and what’s on offer.
                        Power is a great negotiator we will be fine.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7681

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          We absolutely have to get the hawks involved. They've got the pick we want.

                          If we lose Bailey for similar value to Schulz it'll be disappointing

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15173

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            Stringer done us over , only one club wanted him so we had no bargaining power except to keep him and that wasn’t going to happen as we kicked him out.
                            Dunkley wanted out and you can’t stop that if they are out of contract, it’s a matter of who he wants to go to, who is competing for him and you can only get what’s on offer or nothing.
                            Smith is much in the Dunkley scenario if he decides to leave.
                            If he wants out it would be interesting to see who he names and what’s on offer.
                            Power is a great negotiator we will be fine.
                            Beveridge did us over with the Stringer trade. He publicly said we do not want him.
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10055

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              If we don’t do the Schache part we win the Stringer trade.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65833

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                Beveridge did us over with the Stringer trade. He publicly said we do not want him.
                                It was worth it
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