Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

At his first finals campaign with us, he'd be a week away from 30. And there's a bit of talk about a debilitating back injury...

The potential opportunity cost in getting Barrass with the Bailey Smith compo isn't Bailey himself, it's an 18 year old version of Bailey Smith/Sanders/Selwood.

Yeah that's absolutely the opportunity cost and I get it. But are we trying to win a flag in the next 1 or 2 seasons or not? Cos if we are, we need to swing for the fences. Our defensive stocks are near empty. If we lose Jones due to injury or form, our chances at a flag are cooked.

[Guido]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Yeah that's absolutely the opportunity cost and I get it. But are we trying to win a flag in the next 1 or 2 seasons or not? Cos if we are, we need to swing for the fences. Our defensive stocks are near empty. If we lose Jones due to injury or form, our chances at a flag are cooked.

That's always the risk.

I am not against chasing Barrass, but not with a top 10 pick. Barrass taking, say, $900k a year, and being in and out with a back injury for the best part of the next 4/5 seasons could also cost premierships.

At the time, most would have swapped the Bailey Smith draft pick for Chad Windgard, because he was "exactly what we needed".

If Buss was "definitely leaving" to West Coast, that would probably be the primary trade currency/player swap I'd be more comfortable with, despite the age difference.

[Guido]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

To be slightly more accurate it's the chance we pick an 18 year old Selwood (and not 18 year old A.Everitt)

Or Jarrad Grant!

People were threatening to not renew their memberships if we swapped that pick for Jack Kennedy and Pick 20.

There's always a risk of a bust, no matter the player or how they're recruited.

I am biased, if it's an elite 29/30 year old vs an elite (top 10) rated 18 year old in a solid draft, the best outcome tends to skew towards the kid, purely on account of the additional 12 years they can contribute. There's dozens of failed top 10 picks that can make me look silly, but there's also dozens of players who looked top class at 29 and fell off a cliff by 31. You would want to be bloody sure those two-three years are worth it.

[Guido]

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Has the edit button possibly been lost for some people? I meant West Coast's Josh Kennedy...

[Grantysghost]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

That's always the risk.

I am not against chasing Barrass, but not with a top 10 pick. Barrass taking, say, $900k a year, and being in and out with a back injury for the best part of the next 4/5 seasons could also cost premierships.

At the time, most would have swapped the Bailey Smith draft pick for Chad Windgard, because he was "exactly what we needed".

If Buss was "definitely leaving" to West Coast, that would probably be the primary trade currency/player swap I'd be more comfortable with, despite the age difference.

I'm of the same opinion. Let's draft another midfielder.

There's a bunch in the top 10 prospects.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/39916961/afl-draft-2024-april-power-rankings-josh-smillie-sid-draper-camporeale-twins-levi-ashcroft

[Axe Man]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Trade buzz: Why Bailey Smith might not end up at Collingwood as new suitor sits at the front of the queue

Bailey Smith looks likely to leave the Western Bulldogs. Collingwood wants Bailey Smith. However, there?s another suitor who might already have the star midfielder?s signature.

Western Bulldogs midfielder Bailey Smith flies back into Melbourne this weekend after a brief European summer sojourn with Collingwood?s draft hand putting it behind the eight ball in securing him.

Industry sources still believe Geelong has the desire to add a pacy, mature-aged mid and the Surf Coast lifestyle that could attract a player who has spoken about dealing with the intense Melbourne football bubble.

Smith already has a strong connection with the Cotton On brand, which is why cheeky rivals say a move down Princes Highway is almost a done deal.

But any additional services agreement funding at Geelong would be heavily scrutinised by the AFL and would have to stack up from a commercial point of view.

The Magpies? only selection in the first two rounds of this year?s draft is Hawthorn?s second rounder, which could end up drifting into the 40s.

They could give up a future first-rounder but the Pies are known to be keen on key talls including Victoria?s Whitlock twins in the draft.

Hawthorn remains in the mix and could satisfy the Bulldogs? desire for a first-round pick, which is currently No. 6.

While the Bulldogs would prefer to keep the 23-year-old next year and beyond, their confidence levels have plummeted the longer the season has rolled on.

The Cats are considered the clubhouse leader, given their need for a midfielder refresh, though he is not the engine-room bull that coach Chris Scott has been craving.

The Dogs continue to chase West Coast intercept marker Tom Barrass, which the Herald Sun revealed in April, with their chase for another key back continuing.

Any first round selection they secure for Smith would be critical given they gave up their 2024 first-rounder to bring in Tasmanian first round pick Ryley Sanders last November

While Barrass knocked back offers from clubs such as Sydney last year, it is believed that he is open to considering what a fresh start would look like.

The Dogs have effectively begun planning for life after Smith, with Ed Richards moving into the midfield while others such as Harvey Gallagher have spent some time in there alongside the likes of Marcus Bontempelli and Tom Liberatore.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Has the edit button possibly been lost for some people? I meant West Coast's Josh Kennedy...

Let me have a look for you.

[Happy Days]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

For what it’s worth the mural on the side of Cornershop has been painted over.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Has the edit button possibly been lost for some people? I meant West Coast's Josh Kennedy...

Let me have a look for you.

Given Guido's just smashed his yearly posting average throw all the resources you have at it G!

Good to see you back Guido.

[jeemak]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

Trade buzz: Why Bailey Smith might not end up at Collingwood as new suitor sits at the front of the queue



While the Bulldogs would prefer to keep the 23-year-old next year and beyond, their confidence levels have plummeted the longer the season has rolled on.

How far could our hopes have actually plummeted? That assumes anyone was confident he'd be staying at some point in the last six months.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

How far could our hopes have actually plummeted? That assumes anyone was confident he'd be staying at some point in the last six months.

And a new suitor? They were the original club rumoured…

[jeemak]

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And a new suitor? They were the original club rumoured…

Outa the woodwork they've come they 'ave.

[bulldogtragic]

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Outa the woodwork they've come they 'ave.

… pretty sure they would’ve reported last year about Dangerfield saying they’d love Baz at Geelong…

It’s creating an angle on a story that’s a straight line. Why an angle when there isn’t one. The guy obviously leaving going to the obvious choice that we’re chasing him last year and share a sponsor. honestly.

[ledge]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

So on midweek tackle they said Smith was seen looking at real estate out Geelong way .. obviously we have a reporter reading woof .
Ok time to come out, which one of you is it ?

[jazzadogs]

Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

So on midweek tackle they said Smith was seen looking at real estate out Geelong way .. obviously we have a reporter reading woof .
Ok time to come out, which one of you is it ?

BAD is Damian Barrett.