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  • Bullies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2014
    • 1802

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    Any chance he plays this year if we go deep?
    Not a chance. He can't risk his next contract.

    Only if he signs with us for the 2 years would he be a chance to play and that is most unlikely.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      With the Hawks winning 5 of 7 they’ve moved into currently Pick 7 which will slide to Pick 8 after Ashcroft.

      I hope the Hawks are trying hard to chase the former Hawks supporter who loves Sam Mitchell.

      I think Pick 8 would be a solid return. I’d like another pick, maybe a F2. But as he’s out of contract we might need to do it. The Hawks are by far and away the best option for him to pick at this stage.

      Or maybe we keep winning and he takes the offer that’s been on the table for 3 months? But I wouldn’t bet on it.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • merantau
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2015
        • 3950

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        I am not that bothered about Bailey Smith to be honest. Gets a lot of the ball but is not a good user. Has a huge life outside of football which is problematic for me. I prefer players like Tom Liberatore, Bob Murphy, Danny Southern, Rick Kennedy, Liam Picken.
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        "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7280

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by merantau
          I am not that bothered about Bailey Smith to be honest. Gets a lot of the ball but is not a good user. Has a huge life outside of football which is problematic for me. I prefer players like Tom Liberatore, Bob Murphy, Danny Southern, Rick Kennedy, Liam Picken.
          I understand the sentiment merantau but - and I'd probs have to double check - apart from Tom all those other blokes have retired! So, Bailey - whilst not better - is probs better 'right now'.
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44089

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            I hope we can keep Bailey Smith as I like the prospect of him and Sanders emerging as midfielders but if his heart isn't in it or he's not really interested then we should get something decent as a return for his services if he decides to move on.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • merantau
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2015
              • 3950

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Originally posted by mjp
              I understand the sentiment merantau but - and I'd probs have to double check - apart from Tom all those other blokes have retired! So, Bailey - whilst not better - is probs better 'right now'.
              There was a specific quality I was summoning up by naming those players. A quality that has little to do with playing ability. Maybe I'm too old school for the modern day football world and need to "get with the program".
              [URL="http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau"]http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau[/URL]
              "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7280

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Originally posted by merantau
                There was a specific quality I was summoning up by naming those players. A quality that has little to do with playing ability. Maybe I'm too old school for the modern day football world and need to "get with the program".
                I know. I understood what you were saying (if not exactly how Bob Murphy got on that list but that's another story)...

                My post was a JOKE!!
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • MrMahatma
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3965

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  With the Hawks winning 5 of 7 they’ve moved into currently Pick 7 which will slide to Pick 8 after Ashcroft.

                  I hope the Hawks are trying hard to chase the former Hawks supporter who loves Sam Mitchell.

                  I think Pick 8 would be a solid return. I’d like another pick, maybe a F2. But as he’s out of contract we might need to do it. The Hawks are by far and away the best option for him to pick at this stage.

                  Or maybe we keep winning and he takes the offer that’s been on the table for 3 months? But I wouldn’t bet on it.
                  I want him to stay. Really do. We get a branding superstar in our colours and he makes our CLUB better/more relevant.

                  However, it wouldn't make any sense for him to sign now. Unless all other clubs walked away, why would he have held off this long then sign. So I'm now turning my perspective to - what can we get. I think given his knee (there's always doubts on if they player is the same) and the way draft picks are typically overrated, then pick 8 is maybe ok. I highly doubt we'll get a player better than Smith with that pick, but that's a better hand than what we'd get via the Pies.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18820

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Absolutely must keep if can. Not sure why he want to leave such a talented side with a huge role earmarked for him, but he is a significant off-field player so can see he would be looking to enhance that side of things and a bigger club would do that.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18820

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I hope we can keep Bailey Smith as I like the prospect of him and Sanders emerging as midfielders but if his heart isn't in it or he's not really interested then we should get something decent as a return for his services if he decides to move on.
                      Can we speculate on what we get?

                      To me has to be top 7 pick.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21508

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        I'd be doing whatever I can to keep a proven finals performer who should be coming into their prime at our club.

                        It's a long shot that he'll be staying, not sure how we'll be compensated fairly given his likely destinations.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Can we speculate on what we get?

                          To me has to be top 7 pick.
                          Needs to pick Hawthorn or it’s a Dunkley re-run scenario.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • The Adelaide Connection
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2729

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by merantau
                            I am not that bothered about Bailey Smith to be honest. Gets a lot of the ball but is not a good user. Has a huge life outside of football which is problematic for me. I prefer players like Tom Liberatore, Bob Murphy, Danny Southern, Rick Kennedy, Liam Picken.
                            I agree to a degree- players like Picken and Cross (who were unassuming, not fashionable and seemingly ran on ticker to play above expectations) have been some of my favourite of all time.

                            But is not wanting the sideshow that comes along with Bailey a bit "small club syndrome" of us?

                            I mean, he is probably the most marketable player in the league and a tool that can be manipulated to grow our brand significantly. He is the Beckham of the AFL right now- that might be a bit polarising, but sheesh it is an opportunity.

                            Honestly, sending him to a big club is the last thing we want to do from an off-field perspective.

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7280

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Needs to pick Hawthorn or it’s a Dunkley re-run scenario.
                              Freo have 3-first round picks.

                              Use them somehow to make it work.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • my plums
                                Rookie List
                                • Aug 2022
                                • 125

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Need to keep him somehow. For off-field as much as on field reasons.

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