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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

    Finals again. Week one v St Kilda so tell us what you have learned with the extra speed, pressure and focus that comes with finals footy!
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44622

    #2
    Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15444

      #3
      Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

      1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

      2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

      3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7363

        #4
        Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

        Originally posted by Mantis
        1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

        2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

        3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.
        Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18027

          #5
          Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

          Same way we’ve lost all year so just copy and paste my answers from Rd 2, the Blues loss, the Lions loss etc.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15444

            #6
            Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

            Originally posted by mjp
            Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.
            How easily did they score their goals?

            Understand the differential in inside 50’s was huge, but when he hack kick it in, and fill the forwardline with anyone except forwards then I’m not sure what we expect... especially against a tall defence.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11244

              #7
              Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

              1. Naughton should probably go back given JUH is coming. Our back half is diabolical and needs a stable key defender. Naughton and Keath looks solid. Naughtys two finals forward have been really poor, I get the attraction of playing him forward, but I think for the betterment of the side he goes back.

              2. Lipinski isn't a good fit for us. Slow, meek in the contest. Said it earlier in the year but he's expendable.

              3. Could we target somebody like Mason Cox?
              W00F!

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              • Bullies
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 1807

                #8
                Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                1. Libber is our barometer. When he comes into the game we fire. Unfortunately for the first 3 quarters he was missing.

                2. Ryan Gardner will make it as a footballer

                3. We need a small forward who can kick goals and need to put more game time into Vandermeer for his pace.

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                • ratsmac
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2009
                  • 3975

                  #9
                  Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                  1. Missing set shots from 20m out in an elimination final is just inexcusable. It absolutely cost us.

                  2. Ruck, nope didn't learn anything there

                  2. I'll go again. Our game style doesn't stand up in finals. This result was fitting for our season.

                  3. We need intercept markers. Every team seems to have them except us. Wood used to be good at it. Crozier used to be good at it. Keath is OK at it. This may come down to defensive structures.
                  They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                  Brian Fantana.

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                  • Dry Rot
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6444

                    #10
                    Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    1/ We need to fix our ruck situation

                    2/ We need to fix our forward pressure

                    3/ We need to fix our defensive systems... they just walked goals in.
                    This plus we have no forward system.

                    Our forward line is full of HBFs and failed mids. Bruce god help us was our only specialist forward IIRC.

                    And critical tackles don't stick.
                    The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                    • Dry Rot
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6444

                      #11
                      Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                      Originally posted by ratsmac

                      2. I'll go again. Our game style doesn't stand up in finals. This result was fitting for our season.
                      What I was thinking for most of the game.
                      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11245

                        #12
                        Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.
                        We had a lot of dirty entries. Their entries, especially in the middle 2 qtrs were quick, clean and deep.

                        We were gutsy to keep running the game out but some of our set up and play in the first 3 qtrs was abject.

                        1. We need to give more respect to the ruck and stoppage set up
                        2. Trading is just as important as drafting. St Kilda loses this game comfortably without their off season recruits.
                        3. We only beat West Coast without Nic Nat of the teams in the top 8. We ended up exactly where we deserved this season.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3826

                          #13
                          Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          Forward pressure was alright...and defending was ok - kept them to 10 goals. But when you are plus 16 for inside 50’s and lose...well, my goodness.
                          Bang on. Lachie hitting the post. Bailey Smith missing a sitter. Wally missing from a free. End of the day we had chances to win this and didn't take them. Wasn't the ruck; Wasn't Cordy getting injured; it was not making the most of forward entries.

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3826

                            #14
                            Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                            1) we have the basis of a team that can be competitive, but I'm not sure we have the team that will take he next step in a final;

                            2) our 20th/21st/22nd players need to be better;

                            3) we need to be more than just Caleb Daniel

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                            • Missing-Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3102

                              #15
                              Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                              1 We have too many same type players. No Bigs
                              2 Just cos you are the tallest player in the club, doesn't mean you know how and can play the ruck role. Keep him FF in 2021
                              3 Long bombs and missed shots...ordinary

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