Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

3. Could we target somebody like Mason Cox?

This call looks great right about now

[DOG GOD]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1) we are in DESPERATE need for a ruckman
2) we are in DESPERATE need for a Cameron/Ryan clone
3) we are in DESPERATE need for goal kicking/tackling coaches

[SonofScray]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1 scoreboard pressure is the best sort of pressure

2 our system is not up to scratch

3 scraping into finals and being dealt with by shit rival is really disappointing

[AshMac]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. We have learnt absolutely nothing about finals footy

the rest of the disappointing lessons I already knew

[westdog54]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. Watching Brad Hill's workrate up and down the ground made me realise just how much I miss Liam Picken and Matthew Boyd.
2. Paddy Ryder is criminally underrated.
3. Caleb Daniel might be the best kick of a football I have EVER seen play the game.

[Eastdog]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

Bang on. Lachie hitting the post. Bailey Smith missing a sitter. Wally missing from a free. End of the day we had chances to win this and didn't take them. Wasn't the ruck; Wasn't Cordy getting injured; it was not making the most of forward entries.

Agree although the ruck is an issue for us. Considering the margin of 3 points yes not taking those big chances cost us this game.

[macca]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1) we are in DESPERATE need for a ruckman
2) we are in DESPERATE need for a Cameron/Ryan clone
3) we are in DESPERATE need for goal kicking/tackling coaches

There must be players in the local leagues which meet the first 2 ?

Ryder was the ruckman we had to chase last year . Did we go hard for him? I would be staggered if he was not chased hard. His very good with his Ruck craft , gets in the right positions , excellent mark and kicks goals .

Where can we find a ruck /fwd that is available ? Is Wright a chance ?

What is Gilbee doing nowadays ? Or I hope we can keep Dickson around to help out with the kicking

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. We were the fitter team.
2. If it wasn't for the shorter quarters in my opinion we would have won.
3. Left our run too late.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. Some of our best players let us down when it mattered most. Bontempelli, Macrae and Hunter. They had a few moments but by and large had little effect on the game. Bontempelli had only 4 contested possessions, Macrae only 1 clearance, Hunter a huge missed opportunity in front of goal and about 5 'nothing' up and under kicks down the wing. These three are champions but I hope the memory of this game spurs them to greater heights next year.

2. The good teams slip past our forward pressure. So many frustrating missed tackles that allowed the Saints to exit their defensive fifty.

3. We came into the game with the wrong mindset. Clearly there was some kind of instruction to slow down movement, or possess the ball by foot. It resulted in consistent congestion in our forward half. When we finally started taking the game on in the last quarter it proved too little too late.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. Some of our best players let us down when it mattered most. Bontempelli, Macrae and Hunter. They had a few moments but by and large had little effect on the game. Bontempelli had only 4 contested possessions, Macrae only 1 clearance, Hunter a huge missed opportunity in front of goal and about 5 'nothing' up and under kicks down the wing. These three are champions but I hope the memory of this game spurs them to greater heights next year.

2. The good teams slip past our forward pressure. So many frustrating missed tackles that allowed the Saints to exit their defensive fifty.

3. We came into the game with the wrong mindset. Clearly there was some kind of instruction to slow down movement, or possess the ball by foot. It resulted in consistent congestion in our forward half. When we finally started taking the game on in the last quarter it proved too little too late.

I thought Macrae was super tough playing on after coping the shoulder to the face/jaw. Wouldn't be surprised if it affected him the rest of the match. One tough bugger.

[Bornadog]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

1. We need to finish in the top four and get a second chance. That is the third elimination final we have bowed out in, two by less than a goal.

2. We need to target another Key Backman to take on the gorillas - these fullforwards are not getting shorter with the King boys over 200, Lynch over 200 and many more coming through.

3. We need a reliable small pressure forward who also kicks goals and someone to play the second ruck role effectively.

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

2. We need to target another Key Backman to take on the gorillas - these fullforwards are not getting shorter with the King boys over 200, Lynch over 200 and many more coming through.

It’s the giraffes that are the problem moving forward, not the gorillas.

[Bornadog]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

It’s the giraffes that are the problem moving forward, not the gorillas.

Yeah, time to change the terminology, they are tall and athletic as well.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

This plus we have no forward system.

Our forward line is full of HBFs and failed mids. Bruce god help us was our only specialist forward IIRC.

And critical tackles don't stick.

I actually think we do have a forward system. I don't like it, but its there..........But its not really a system, its chaotic, unpredictable, hapharzard. This is no accident because its been the same for all of Beveridge's tenure even in 2016.

The thing he will rightly point out is that the purpose of a forward system is create goal scoring opportunities more than your opponent gets, to win the game.

Well we actually did that. We created the opportunities and we kept them to 10 goals That should be enough to win. And 3 points margin says the system isn't to blame...

Personally, I want to see the whole game plan overhauled, but can the players play another way?

[Danjul]

Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

I actually think we do have a forward system. I don't like it, but its there..........But its not really a system, its chaotic, unpredictable, hapharzard. This is no accident because its been the same for all of Beveridge's tenure even in 2016.

The thing he will rightly point out is that the purpose of a forward system is create goal scoring opportunities more than your opponent gets, to win the game.

Well we actually did that. We created the opportunities and we kept them to 10 goals That should be enough to win. And 3 points margin says the system isn't to blame...

Personally, I want to see the whole game plan overhauled, but can the players play another way?

Yesterday our best forwards were the umpires. I think they had 3 of our first 4 goals.

They seem to be the only scoring opportunities the deliberate chaos game plan generates.