Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10142

    #46
    Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

    Originally posted by Sedat
    Just on Naughton, he took 2 monster pack marks in the last qtr and in both of them he had to compete against his direct opponent and also Bruce and his direct opponent. Their chemistry is a clear problem.
    I can think of one solution.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • The bulldog tragician
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2013
      • 1972

      #47
      Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

      Originally posted by Happy Days
      I can think of one solution.
      Move him to the backline where his spoiling could be an asset?
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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18030

        #48
        Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        I can think of one solution.
        The Polec Protocol?
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44636

          #49
          Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

          Originally posted by comrade
          The Polec Protocol?
          I thought it might be the Shane Stremple solution down at the Yarraville nets
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          • GetDimmaBack
            WOOF Member
            • May 2008
            • 235

            #50
            Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

            How often do I need to learn these things?

            1. THey had Marshall and Ryder. We had English. We need our Ryder.

            2. Bad kicking is bad football.

            3. Apparently we might have a chance at a good kid in the draft. Haven't heard much about him, though...

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66705

              #51
              Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              I can think of one solution.
              Originally posted by The bulldog tragician
              Move him to the backline where his spoiling could be an asset?
              How would a Peter Wright work out for us. We could move Naughton back to FB, Jamara forward pocket, and Peter and English swapping in the ruck/ forward roles?
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              • Eastdog
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                • Feb 2012
                • 18286

                #52
                Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                Originally posted by GetDimmaBack
                3. Apparently we might have a chance at a good kid in the draft. Haven't heard much about him, though...
                Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. A bit about him here GDB on the AFL website from back in May 2020:

                Potential No.1 pick Jamarra Ugle-Hagan says he is keen to pay back the Bulldogs for their investment in him
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11841

                  #53
                  Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                  Originally posted by Eastdog
                  Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. A bit about him here GDB on the AFL website from back in May 2020:

                  https://www.afl.com.au/news/432689/w...-at-the-kennel
                  Think it was a bit tongue in cheek that comment ED
                  [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11248

                    #54
                    Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    How would a Peter Wright work out for us. We could move Naughton back to FB, Jamara forward pocket, and Peter and English swapping in the ruck/ forward roles?
                    We could go after Peter Wright, but is he the player we need to fill a specific role? Since our flag we have traded in Cloke, Trengove, Schache and now Bruce to address specific KPP needs and none of them have improved our team at all to date. That is an unmitigated trading and list management disaster.

                    Wright may well be worth chasing but what is the specific role we are chasing him for? Worth noting that he failed to get a game all season in a bottom 5 team and wasn't injured.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66705

                      #55
                      Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      We could go after Peter Wright, but is he the player we need to fill a specific role? Since our flag we have traded in Cloke, Trengove, Schache and now Bruce to address specific KPP needs and none of them have improved our team at all to date. That is an unmitigated trading and list management disaster.

                      Wright may well be worth chasing but what is the specific role we are chasing him for? Worth noting that he failed to get a game all season in a bottom 5 team and wasn't injured.
                      Ruck/Forward to help out Tim
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                      • bulldogsthru&thru
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • May 2011
                        • 7697

                        #56
                        Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                        On paper Wright is the perfect player to compliment Tim in the ruck and spend time forward. However he's not really a ruckman at all. Not any more than Trengove is. And getting him means we certainly need to offload Schache and potentially even Bruce. That's not even considering why he can't get a game for the Suns.

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11248

                          #57
                          Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Ruck/Forward to help out Tim
                          What are his ruck stats? How many minutes per game has he rucked previously and can ruck moving forward? Will he improve our stoppage game and give the midfield first CLEAN use? If he comes in, what then of Schache and Bruce, who are almost identical types (primarily forward but can ruck a bit when needed)?

                          Sorry for all the questions but they need to be asked. My preference is for a quality stoppage ruckman who can provide value elsewhere (aka Goldy despite his age). I'm not sure Wright ticks all those boxes.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • bulldogsthru&thru
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • May 2011
                            • 7697

                            #58
                            Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            What are his ruck stats? How many minutes per game has he rucked previously and can ruck moving forward? Will he improve our stoppage game and give the midfield first CLEAN use? If he comes in, what then of Schache and Bruce, who are almost identical types (primarily forward but can ruck a bit when needed)?

                            Sorry for all the questions but they need to be asked. My preference is for a quality stoppage ruckman who can provide value elsewhere (aka Goldy despite his age). I'm not sure Wright ticks all those boxes.
                            If the Saints are going hard for Taranto, they'll certainly be splashing some coin. I know they won't let him go but what would it take to pry Marshall out?

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66705

                              #59
                              Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              What are his ruck stats? How many minutes per game has he rucked previously and can ruck moving forward? Will he improve our stoppage game and give the midfield first CLEAN use? If he comes in, what then of Schache and Bruce, who are almost identical types (primarily forward but can ruck a bit when needed)?

                              Sorry for all the questions but they need to be asked. My preference is for a quality stoppage ruckman who can provide value elsewhere (aka Goldy despite his age). I'm not sure Wright ticks all those boxes.
                              Just a suggestion, that is all.

                              Same questions you are asking can be directed to anyone coming in.
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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                #60
                                Re: Three things you have learned. *ELIMINATION FINAL* 2020 v St Kilda.

                                Originally posted by Eastdog
                                Jamarra Ugle-Hagan. A bit about him here GDB on the AFL website from back in May 2020:

                                https://www.afl.com.au/news/432689/w...-at-the-kennel
                                I have seen Jamarra to be 194cm and 196cm in a number of different articles. Here we go again.

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