Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

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  • MrMahatma
    Coaching Staff
    • Sep 2007
    • 3965

    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

    Originally posted by Sedat
    We were at our best this season with McNeil and Scott as part of our forward set-up. Not sure why they can't be reintegrated back into our F50 with JJ and VDM to make way. We aren't losing much at all offensively or defensively with these 2 out of the team
    Scott had a bit of a mare v Essendon last time. Missed everything from 30 out directly in front. Choked hard on the opportunity to give us a buffer. I wouldn’t be playing him in a knock out final.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18963

      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

      Originally posted by MrMahatma
      I agree based on that. No chance. Bevo more or less just wanted to explain why he wouldn’t be picked so that all of us shut up when he’s not, but also leave the door open so Essendon need to plan for the possibility that he will play.

      I still think our best chance of winning the flag is with Stef in the team. Is it possible for him to get enough fitness in scratch matches? If not, I’d say we need to risk playing him and hope we get a decent lead that tired legs don’t hurt us in the last qtr. I mean, if we win and Lions win, we play Dees next week… and that won’t end well at all if it’s Gawn v Young.
      Exactly and just abuse the medi-sub. Hamstring tightness.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18030

        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

        So Young and English to ruck.

        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6932

          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

          Don't get me wrong, I hate our ruck situation but not sure playing Stef is the answer. He actually does seem to be building but even if he doesn't get hurt, seems he can barely move. Like incapable of doing the bare essentials at AFL level. It gets to the point where we might as well then play Sweet if going with that.

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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6932

            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

            There's a risk of injury and then there's knowing even if a player doesn't get injured, they cannot cover the basic ground needed at AFL level.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14953

              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

              Originally posted by Bullies
              Leading the competition with - "Repeat Sprints". Is that not taking the stats to the next level. Not sure we should be reading to much into it. Would rather see us get back to basics. See ball, get ball - "Repeat Possessions".
              It's the style of play that got us to the top of the ladder, and arguably a drop off in defensive running is what has led to our malaise.

              Every team plays forwards whose role is to negate opposition chains from the back half. Last year we fell into a heap for a month when teams started putting one of the forwards on Caleb. When we allow teams to switch easily they kill us. Conversely if you go back to our first game against Melbourne, Brayshaw sacrificed his game and spent the entire time out wide cutting off our switch kick and it destroyed us.

              "See ball, get ball" is under 12s stuff.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6932

                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                Originally posted by Mofra
                It's the style of play that got us to the top of the ladder, and arguably a drop off in defensive running is what has led to our malaise.

                Every team plays forwards whose role is to negate opposition chains from the back half. Last year we fell into a heap for a month when teams started putting one of the forwards on Caleb. When we allow teams to switch easily they kill us. Conversely if you go back to our first game against Melbourne, Brayshaw sacrificed his game and spent the entire time out wide cutting off our switch kick and it destroyed us.

                "See ball, get ball" is under 12s stuff.
                One underrated stat is winning and losing. We won more with the element you mentioned.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14953

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  Don't get me wrong, I hate our ruck situation but not sure playing Stef is the answer. He actually does seem to be building but even if he doesn't get hurt, seems he can barely move. Like incapable of doing the bare essentials at AFL level. It gets to the point where we might as well then play Sweet if going with that.
                  Stef for a half, burn him out, then Young to sub in?
                  I don't think we can let Draper get 48 clean hit outs again because a lot of those hit outs were to clear space their midget midfielders ran onto. If Stef stops those hit outs and the ball falls short, I'd back a Libba & Dunks combo to win the contested possession count in close.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18963

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                    There's a risk of injury and then there's knowing even if a player doesn't get injured, they cannot cover the basic ground needed at AFL level.
                    That's the message I got, it's just too much of a team risk to have a guy who can't run defensively/structurally.

                    Shame.

                    Might have played his last game, he can't get that back playing 12 minute quarters or whatever they were.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Rocco Jones
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 6932

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Stef for a half, burn him out, then Young to sub in?
                      I don't think we can let Draper get 48 clean hit outs again because a lot of those hit outs were to clear space their midget midfielders ran onto. If Stef stops those hit outs and the ball falls short, I'd back a Libba & Dunks combo to win the contested possession count in close.
                      Thing is, can he even do the bursts at AFL level? The practise match seemed so light, like heavily reduced time. Doesn't matter how much of a break you get, if you literally cannot get to places physically.

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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6932

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        That's the message I got, it's just too much of a team risk to have a guy who can't run defensively/structurally.

                        Shame.

                        Might have played his last game, he can't get that back playing 12 minute quarters or whatever they were.
                        Yeah he seems a different case atm. Like just not able to physically do the work. Sounds cooked really.

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                        • The Pie Man
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2008
                          • 3497

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                          Just ducked out to get some lunch and tunes into SEN - whooboy is the caller feedback for Bevo something…

                          ‘Has Sweet fallen off the face of the earth?’

                          ‘He wipes players’

                          ‘He’s stubborn & pigheaded’

                          ‘The sooner he’s out the door the better’
                          Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                            Originally posted by The Pie Man
                            Just ducked out to get some lunch and tunes into SEN - whooboy is the caller feedback for Bevo something…

                            ‘Has Sweet fallen off the face of the earth?’

                            ‘He wipes players’

                            ‘He’s stubborn & pigheaded’

                            ‘The sooner he’s out the door the better’
                            We have a messiah or burn them at the stake complex.

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6402

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              We have a messiah or burn them at the stake complex.
                              I don't think our supporter base in Robinson Crusoe there...

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                                Originally posted by Ozza
                                I don't think our supporter base in Robinson Crusoe there...
                                Yeah, very true.

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