Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14945

    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    100%. It's not Lewy, it's Lewy combined with guys who shouldn't be in the ruck. Really a target on our heads.
    So... we are a real chance of no change going into the final?

    Bevo has been pouring cold water on the Martin idea. I suspect if Sweet was in the frame he would have played last week in place of Lewie.

    Roarke played well enough to keep his spot and I can't see us dropping Dunkley on the back of a 4 tackle, 4 clearance game as a second rotation mid playing half the game in the HF dead zone.
    VDM for a McNeill/Scott/Garcia type might be the only consideration but we really do rate forward half pace.
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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      God I wouldn't wish that on our Luke.

      She's a veteran of two flags live though so she'd have some interesting insights.

      Kick it! Is her common catch cry
      The kick it yell was very popular from doggie supporters during the 60's. 70's and

      80's on the terraces at Footscray. No one thought of saying handball.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18027

        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

        Originally posted by Mofra
        So... we are a real chance of no change going into the final?

        Bevo has been pouring cold water on the Martin idea. I suspect if Sweet was in the frame he would have played last week in place of Lewie.

        Roarke played well enough to keep his spot and I can't see us dropping Dunkley on the back of a 4 tackle, 4 clearance game as a second rotation mid playing half the game in the HF dead zone.
        VDM for a McNeill/Scott/Garcia type might be the only consideration but we really do rate forward half pace.
        Wood has to come out, can not be selected off the form he’s produced the last few weeks.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • mjp
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7363

          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          I don't get the 'Lewy should pack his bags ASAP if he hasn't done so already crowd.
          ...
          Of course he has the right to look elsewhere, I wouldn't blame him, like any fringe-ish player really big career decisions for them to stay or move. Hard to be loyal when your career can be greatly impacted.
          If my post sounded like it was implying ANY of this, it wasn't. I like him fine.
          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7363

            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

            Originally posted by comrade
            Wood has to come out, can not be selected off the form he’s produced the last few weeks.
            I would be shocked if Wood was left out.
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • Go_Dogs
              Hall of Fame
              • Jan 2007
              • 10152

              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

              No change I suspect.

              Agree re Lew in ruck. Think it’s a good fit and he can become a genuine option there for us. He will do Ok this week if we pick him.
              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66688

                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I didn't think he went too badly at all and I'd be doing what I can to keep him and develop him as a ruckman
                We need a ruck teacher at the club for a year or so.
                Martin
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66688

                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  The kick it yell was very popular from doggie supporters during the 60's. 70's and

                  80's on the terraces at Footscray. No one thought of saying handball.
                  Yeah, football was different then
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                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18959

                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    So... we are a real chance of no change going into the final?

                    Bevo has been pouring cold water on the Martin idea. I suspect if Sweet was in the frame he would have played last week in place of Lewie.

                    Roarke played well enough to keep his spot and I can't see us dropping Dunkley on the back of a 4 tackle, 4 clearance game as a second rotation mid playing half the game in the HF dead zone.
                    VDM for a McNeill/Scott/Garcia type might be the only consideration but we really do rate forward half pace.
                    I get the feeling this is the team we want, and I doubt there will be any changes.

                    Martin is a longshot after watching the press conference, although I'd like him to come in.

                    But am I fantasising about a Martin who had a pre-season under his belt and was champing at the bit? Probably.

                    34 yr old depths of Winter, long layoff Martin isn't the same proposition unfortunately. That turnover game line as mentioned is the nail.

                    So I'd say no change yep.
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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Yeah, football was different then
                      For the better or worse? Probably a thread in that question. Players could kick bags irrespective of the conditions too.

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11244

                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        I get the feeling this is the team we want, and I doubt there will be any changes.

                        Martin is a longshot after watching the press conference, although I'd like him to come in.

                        But am I fantasising about a Martin who had a pre-season under his belt and was champing at the bit? Probably.

                        34 yr old depths of Winter, long layoff Martin isn't the same proposition unfortunately. That turnover game line as mentioned is the nail.

                        So I'd say no change yep.
                        I still think it's a risk we should take but only because our other options are putrid.

                        I haven't forgotten how awful he looked v Richmond though.
                        W00F!

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66688

                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          I get the feeling this is the team we want, and I doubt there will be any changes.

                          Martin is a longshot after watching the press conference, although I'd like him to come in.

                          But am I fantasising about a Martin who had a pre-season under his belt and was champing at the bit? Probably.

                          34 yr old depths of Winter, long layoff Martin isn't the same proposition unfortunately. That turnover game line as mentioned is the nail.

                          So I'd say no change yep.
                          If he did come in, who would go out?

                          I would drop Wood, and Roarke can take his spot on the HBF
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                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18027

                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            I would be shocked if Wood was left out.
                            I’d be shocked and very concerned if he’s selected after that performance.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6931

                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              If my post sounded like it was implying ANY of this, it wasn't. I like him fine.
                              No, I was agreeing with you.

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                              • The Pie Man
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2008
                                • 3497

                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                                Originally posted by mjp
                                So what if you were told the Match Committee meetings were very vocal and there was lots of dissent...but ultimately the coach will get his way ('cos that's the way its always been and the way it always WILL be).

                                I mean - don't you want the coach to have a clear sense of what he believes in/what he wants? I mean, of course he's stubborn. Of course he wants things done 'his way'. That's why he's the coach. If he wanted to make suggestions he would have remained an assistant with Hawthorn. He wanted to make decisions so he applied himself to the task of becoming a senior coach.

                                I get the criticism and have often joked about team selection being based on a Bingo card (I know it isn't but as a clear outsider it does seem that way) and I regularly use phrases (usually after the team is announced) "don't EVER change Bevo" as yet another surprise is sprung upon us...but I 100% don't want the person in charge to be indecisive and generally wishy washy...if 'stubborn' is the alternative (and it probably is) then I'm in the camp for stubborn.
                                I don’t disagree with this mjp - you want strong leadership from your manager, who has a identifiable vision and communicates direction clearly.

                                I’m not sure preferring makeshift options with little training in alternate roles this deep into the season screams that. Perhaps I’m looking for some common sense, which you hope some of the voices around him might be able to sell.
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