Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18103

    #331
    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

    Originally posted by The Pie Man
    I don’t disagree with this mjp - you want strong leadership from your manager, who has a identifiable vision and communicates direction clearly.

    I’m not sure preferring makeshift options with little training in alternate roles this deep into the season screams that. Perhaps I’m looking for some common sense, which you hope some of the voices around him might be able to sell.
    Agree. Shoehorning Young (who has been ok) into an unfamiliar ruck role 2 weeks from finals is the antithesis of strong decision making and leadership imo. Screams of a coaching group grasping at straws.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 22150

      #332
      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

      If Stef hasn't come on as we'd hoped and with English seemingly affected adversely by his lay off form wise, putting Lewy into this position says as much about the MC's faith in Sweet as it does anything else. If they thought he was any good he'd be playing and we wouldn't have to go to Young.

      Given he's out of contract this year it will be interesting if we retain him or move on.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • G-Mo77
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Apr 2007
        • 9901

        #333
        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

        They can't play Sweet now. Hasn't played since round, what 11? 12? Hardly any VFL games over that period. We tied our own hands by being so short sited and not giving him more opportunities so Young stays as our first ruck if Martin doesn't get up.

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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10251

          #334
          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

          Originally posted by jeemak
          If Stef hasn't come on as we'd hoped and with English seemingly affected adversely by his lay off form wise, putting Lewy into this position says as much about the MC's faith in Sweet as it does anything else. If they thought he was any good he'd be playing and we wouldn't have to go to Young.

          Given he's out of contract this year it will be interesting if we retain him or move on.
          Surely he continues on with an extension. Not the stage of his development you get rid of him…
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13387

            #335
            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

            Originally posted by Go_Dogs
            Surely he continues on with an extension. Not the stage of his development you get rid of him…
            Yeah he's a long-term project taking up a list spot but costing next to nothing. We thought he was good enough to rookie list based on his SANFL form and Bevo obviously gave him a good look over. He hasn't progressed as we'd hoped maybe but he'll definitely be offered a new contract.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • Bullies
              WOOF Member
              • Sep 2014
              • 1808

              #336
              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

              Originally posted by mjp
              I would be shocked if Wood was left out.
              He is well and truly cooked. Can't play on his past performances. He has no touch nor confidence.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #337
                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                Surely he continues on with an extension. Not the stage of his development you get rid of him…
                The new and temporary fourth year rookie category surely keeps him around. Let him reset over summer, hit the VFL with momentum (which is hopefully not shutdown regularly) and see where 2022 takes him.

                It must be hard for his confidence about whether he belongs at the level. He’s the only fit #1 ruck for ages and he’s overlooked for a defender whose played 20 games in 5 years. Hopefully he process that without being broken by it.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6984

                  #338
                  Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                  Sweet played 0 games in his first two years and 5 this year. Yes, it’s disappointing for him to end the season like this but also not hard to sell/see the progress he has made.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 22150

                    #339
                    Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                    I'm not advocating for him to be let go, and this isn't the thread for it, but I'm just wondering if he will.

                    Looking at it from an angle that doesn't assume the MC's crazy, knowing that having a ruck has helped our structure with Tim forward, if he's not been able to get a game under these circumstances I'm wondering if a line has been put through him.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • MrMahatma
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3981

                      #340
                      Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Agree. Shoehorning Young (who has been ok) into an unfamiliar ruck role 2 weeks from finals is the antithesis of strong decision making and leadership imo. Screams of a coaching group grasping at straws.
                      Probably because team structure got messed up with Bruce being injured?

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67691

                        #341
                        Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                        Don't be surprised if Schache comes in, instead of Martin
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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3981

                          #342
                          Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Don't be surprised if Schache comes in, instead of Martin
                          3 headed monster v2.

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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7474

                            #343
                            Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Don't be surprised if Schache comes in, instead of Martin
                            He's a versatile player but I WILL be surprised if that happens.
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10251

                              #344
                              Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                              Originally posted by mjp
                              He's a versatile player but I WILL be surprised if that happens.
                              It’s what I’m leaning towards too. Schache in, not sure for who. But his ability to play back, forward and chop in the ruck keeps Tim forward and can give us a different look up front too.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13387

                                #345
                                Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Don't be surprised if Schache comes in, instead of Martin
                                I'm glass half full. All this talk of a big risk selecting Martin but my feeling is, given our deplorable ruck situation, we are actually taking a bigger risk not selecting him.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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