WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

[Danjul]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

This just proves what I have been saying in this thread. The forward line was not the problem on Friday, it was the loose backline and our inability to contain Cameron. Keath so far in this thread has not been criticised, only Gardner has been. Yes the forward line had it's flaws (like missing gettable goals), but when the forward line was given the opportunity, they outscored Geelong.

The forward line was definitely a problem. Look at the 10 minute mark of the First quarter. I think we were already a few goals down and desperately needed some scoring. English marks, passes into the left forward pocket. Target is outmarked. Ball comes back out. English gets a free kick. Passes back in. Same thing, target outmarked.

We clearly had more inside 50s but very few set shots at goal resulted.

I saw Macrae set up passes to forwards for no avail. Not enough height. Williams also. The midfielders would be better off attacking the goals themselves.

How many times was Naughton double and triple tagged? In the game against West Coast we saw Sweet position himself behind Naughton to protect him. I saw none of that against Geelong.

And yet we still looked like winning with 15 minutes to go.

57 inside 50 … 9 marks inside 50.

[GVGjr]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

The forward line was definitely a problem. Look at the 10 minute mark of the First quarter. I think we were already a few goals down and desperately needed some scoring. English marks, passes into the left forward pocket. Target is outmarked. Ball comes back out. English gets a free kick. Passes back in. Same thing, target outmarked.

We clearly had more inside 50s but very few set shots at goal resulted.

I saw Macrae set up passes to forwards for no avail. Not enough height. Williams also. The midfielders would be better off attacking the goals themselves.

How many times was Naughton double and triple tagged? In the game against West Coast we saw Sweet position himself behind Naughton to protect him. I saw none of that against Geelong.

And yet we still looked like winning with 15 minutes to go.

57 inside 50 … 9 marks inside 50.

How would you set-up our 6 or 7 forwards for the next game?

[josie]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

I think he will be ok. Had a quiet game v Geelong. His goal kicking has improved a lot and has only kicked 3 behinds this year in 9 games.

Some dreadful sprays out on the full to add to that. I do agree he adds pressure in F50 and think he is likely to make it as a regular in best 22. McNeil is improving over time too, although I agree if JJ fit he might lose his spot. At present he is offering more then Scott who must be close to being dropped. Weightman has to offer more than flying for speccies and flopping for frees - he is so much better then that.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

The forward line was definitely a problem. Look at the 10 minute mark of the First quarter. I think we were already a few goals down and desperately needed some scoring. English marks, passes into the left forward pocket. Target is outmarked. Ball comes back out. English gets a free kick. Passes back in. Same thing, target outmarked.

We clearly had more inside 50s but very few set shots at goal resulted.

I saw Macrae set up passes to forwards for no avail. Not enough height. Williams also. The midfielders would be better off attacking the goals themselves.

How many times was Naughton double and triple tagged? In the game against West Coast we saw Sweet position himself behind Naughton to protect him. I saw none of that against Geelong.

And yet we still looked like winning with 15 minutes to go.

57 inside 50 … 9 marks inside 50.

The first quarter was a big problem. Only 11 inside 50s to 16, we got done like a dinner in that quarter.

We kicked 9 goals to 5 in the following 3 quarters, and held them to one for the 2nd and 3rd by locking the ball inside our half. Our defence fell apart in the first quarter and the last 10 min in the last quarter. It was only 6 points in it with 5 to go.

We let Cameron run loose.

[Danjul]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

The first quarter was a big problem. Only 11 inside 50s to 16, we got done like a dinner in that quarter.

We kicked 9 goals to 5 in the following 3 quarters, and held them to one for the 2nd and 3rd by locking the ball inside our half. Our defence fell apart in the first quarter and the last 10 min in the last quarter. It was only 6 points in it with 5 to go.

We let Cameron run loose.

All true. But our 11 inside 50s resulted in 1 late goal and their 16 inside got 7.

That Is 1 from 11 versus 1 from 2. Catastrophic.

Then we got 9 goals from 46 inside 50s and some of those were kicked by backman (Dale) and midfielders (Libba x2)

I think the forwards got 5 goals from over 50 inside 50s. I thought we were cruising to a win but the forwards didn’t deliver their share.

[Danjul]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

How would you set-up our 6 or 7 forwards for the next game?

Get as close as possible to Games 1-12 last year. They gave the best results I have seen in years.

[The Underdog]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

How would you set-up our 6 or 7 forwards for the next game?

Sweet, Sweet, Sweet
Sweet, Naughton, Sweet

[azabob]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

How would you set-up our 6 or 7 forwards for the next game?

HF: Johannisen, Ugle-Hagan, Treloar
F: West, Naughton, Weightman

Sweet to play as second ruck.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

Some dreadful sprays out on the full to add to that. I do agree he adds pressure in F50 and think he is likely to make it as a regular in best 22. McNeil is improving over time too, although I agree if JJ fit he might lose his spot. At present he is offering more then Scott who must be close to being dropped. Weightman has to offer more than flying for speccies and flopping for frees - he is so much better then that.

Scott does more than he is credited for. He is in the top 10 in the AFL for linking up play to goal. However, whether he holds his spot when JJ, or Hunter are back we will see.

On Weightman - I don't think he does anything wrong, yes he exaggerates some movements, but how many times a game? Once or twice, big deal, I don't care. All I care about is scoring goals, and he has kicked 16 in 10 games plus 3 assists.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

HF: Johannisen, Ugle-Hagan, Treloar
F: West, Naughton, Weightman

Sweet to play as second ruck.

Bruce is only weeks away. What would you do then?

[GVGjr]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

HF: Johannisen, Ugle-Hagan, Treloar
F: West, Naughton, Weightman

Sweet to play as second ruck.

I like it but would have Schache ahead of Marra.

[Grantysghost]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

I'd have
Marra, Schache, JJ
West, Naughton, Weightman.

Hannan for Marra (at this stage when fit) and Bruce for Schache again when fit.
If they're all in form then nice problem.

[Bornadog]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

I'd have
Marra, Schache, JJ
West, Naughton, Weightman.

Hannan for Marra (at this stage when fit) and Bruce for Schache again when fit.
If they're all in form then nice problem.

McNeil interchange?

[azabob]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

Some dreadful sprays out on the full to add to that. I do agree he adds pressure in F50 and think he is likely to make it as a regular in best 22. McNeil is improving over time too, although I agree if JJ fit he might lose his spot. At present he is offering more then Scott who must be close to being dropped. Weightman has to offer more than flying for speccies and flopping for frees - he is so much better then that.

For mine Scott well ahead of McComb and McNeil.

Scott plays wing, forward and HB at times.

[josie]

Re: WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

Scott does more than he is credited for. He is in the top 10 in the AFL for linking up play to goal. However, whether he holds his spot when JJ, or Hunter are back we will see.

On Weightman - I don't think he does anything wrong, yes he exaggerates some movements, but how many times a game? Once or twice, big deal, I don't care. All I care about is scoring goals, and he has kicked 16 in 10 games plus 3 assists.

I think with Weightman he is/will miss out on frees he is due. I love him and just hope he pulls it back a bit, plus reduce going for same pack mark as Naughts to the latter’s detriment.

Agree Scott can be a good link up player - his two games at Mars this year were ok and I thought he was one of the few that mostly stood up to Crows. But to me I think he does not quite do enough, including unreliable goal kick (he was good at vfl level so assuming issue there is bw the ears) and seeing as he is favoured by MC I’m expecting more. I reckon we need to give Bedendo a go on wing (were he has been playing ok in last few VFL matches - looks like a silky player to me) or forward, possibly at expense of Scott.