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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11854

    Re: Rory Lobb

    Originally posted by ratsmac
    I agree with you but my point was more about over paying for a 30 year old who had his best season to date with 36 goals.

    I don't think he is a very good ruckman either. He probably beats other backup rucks of the English calibre but don't go pinning your hopes on Lobb dominating in the centre.

    Let my rephrase my post. I would be livered if we over pay for Lobb. Forget Lobb and keep Schache. If Schache played every game he'd kick 30 goals easily. That's just 1.3 goals a game. Schache is free. * But not fussed if he we had neither play for us next year. Schache would be a depth player anyway.

    I don't reckon we need Lobb at all tbh. Scoring wasn't our issue this year, it was getting scored against. If Lobb turns us into a defensive outfit like Freo were this year then I'm all in, otherwise I'm happy to pass on Lobb.
    Edited for accuracy based on our most recent match
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66313

      Re: Rory Lobb

      Peter Ryan reporting:

      Bulldogs put forward a second round and future second round as basis for offer for Rory Lobb with a later pick or two back their way on Tuesday. Dockers have a bit on with O'Meara deciding whether to head there:
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44424

        Re: Rory Lobb

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Peter Ryan reporting:
        That seems a lot.
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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7708

          Re: Rory Lobb

          2 second rounders....I really hope not.

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          • mjp
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7326

            Re: Rory Lobb

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            2 second rounders....I really hope not.
            I'm sort of torn on this.

            Whilst I believe we had not 'COMMITTED' to Lobb we would trade for him, there is no doubt given his actions (buying a house in Melbourne etc) he BELIEVES that we did. As such, I think we are somewhat obliged to make it happen.

            On the other side, we already have Bruce, Jamarra, Naughts playing as tall forwards. Where EXACTLY does he play? I'm kind of lost. And I guess this means Darcy is definitely a defender??? I mean...
            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11854

              Re: Rory Lobb

              Guess it depends on whose second rounder (Geelong's via Brisbane?) and what we get back (3rd or 4th round).

              Because that will determine if it's 2 2nd rounders or just 1 and change
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              • Bulldog Revolution
                Coaching Staff
                • Dec 2006
                • 3924

                Re: Rory Lobb

                Originally posted by mjp
                I'm sort of torn on this.

                Whilst I believe we had not 'COMMITTED' to Lobb we would trade for him, there is no doubt given his actions (buying a house in Melbourne etc) he BELIEVES that we did. As such, I think we are somewhat obliged to make it happen.

                On the other side, we already have Bruce, Jamarra, Naughts playing as tall forwards. Where EXACTLY does he play? I'm kind of lost. And I guess this means Darcy is definitely a defender??? I mean...
                He also believes Freo had told him they were trading him - they are partly/majorly responsible for this situation

                Have they really reconsidered after he had his best year? or is it just negotiation posturing?
                Last edited by Bulldog Revolution; 12-10-2022, 11:44 AM.

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                • SquirrelGrip
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1509

                  Re: Rory Lobb

                  Originally posted by mjp

                  On the other side, we already have Bruce, Jamarra, Naughts playing as tall forwards. Where EXACTLY does he play? I'm kind of lost. And I guess this means Darcy is definitely a defender??? I mean...
                  I heard Bruce’s manager on the radio this morning - he’s also Horne-Francis’s manager - and he mentioned Bruce has already started preparing hard for next year, with the option of playing back or forward,
                  "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                  • ratsmac
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2009
                    • 3975

                    Re: Rory Lobb

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    I'm sort of torn on this.

                    Whilst I believe we had not 'COMMITTED' to Lobb we would trade for him, there is no doubt given his actions (buying a house in Melbourne etc) he BELIEVES that we did. As such, I think we are somewhat obliged to make it happen.

                    On the other side, we already have Bruce, Jamarra, Naughts playing as tall forwards. Where EXACTLY does he play? I'm kind of lost. And I guess this means Darcy is definitely a defender??? I mean...
                    I'm with you. We are to far down the road to back out
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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9873

                      Re: Rory Lobb

                      Originally posted by ratsmac
                      I'm with you. We are to far down the road to back out
                      I'm not there. I am Pro Lobb and have been for some time but to give up 2 2nd rounders for him is utterly ludicrous. I'd be saying "Sorry Rory, we tried but we could not get it done. We'd love to have you in 2024, keep in touch"

                      I dread what our final trades are going to be at the end of the period. Give up too much for the player we want and not get enough for the player departing.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66313

                        Re: Rory Lobb

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        I'm not there. I am Pro Lobb and have been for some time but to give up 2 2nd rounders for him is utterly ludicrous. I'd be saying "Sorry Rory, we tried but we could not get it done. We'd love to have you in 2024, keep in touch"

                        I dread what our final trades are going to be at the end of the period. Give up too much for the player we want and not get enough for the player departing.
                        I am fully backing Power to get the right deals done. (fingers crossed )
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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6508

                          Re: Rory Lobb

                          Originally posted by G-Mo77
                          I'm not there. I am Pro Lobb and have been for some time but to give up 2 2nd rounders for him is utterly ludicrous. I'd be saying "Sorry Rory, we tried but we could not get it done. We'd love to have you in 2024, keep in touch"

                          I dread what our final trades are going to be at the end of the period. Give up too much for the player we want and not get enough for the player departing.
                          Absolutely.

                          I feel like our obligation is to offer fair market value - which it sounds like we've done. If Freo refuses to come to the party or hold a higher value on Lobb than what's broadly reasonable, we can't be blamed for that and we're not accountable for the personal decisions a player chooses to make before he's signed on the dotted line for our club.

                          I do caveat that by saying that I wouldn't be going anywhere near Lobb for a pick under 35 and he's not a player I'd like to see on our list next year.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            Re: Rory Lobb

                            Originally posted by lemmon
                            Absolutely.

                            I feel like our obligation is to offer fair market value - which it sounds like we've done. If Freo refuses to come to the party or hold a higher value on Lobb than what's broadly reasonable, we can't be blamed for that and we're not accountable for the personal decisions a player chooses to make before he's signed on the dotted line for our club.

                            I do caveat that by saying that I wouldn't be going anywhere near Lobb for a pick under 35 and he's not a player I'd like to see on our list next year.
                            Yeah I'm in the same boat. I think by paying a pick 25 for example we are paying overs due to him having a career year but could understand us doing it as we made an obligation to him.

                            Freo on the other hand had him 10th in their B&F despite his career year. Our top goalscorer in Naughton came 3rd.

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                            • Bulldog4life
                              WOOF Member
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 9607

                              Re: Rory Lobb

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              Yeah I'm in the same boat. I think by paying a pick 25 for example we are paying overs due to him having a career year but could understand us doing it as we made an obligation to him.

                              Freo on the other hand had him 10th in their B&F despite his career year. Our top goalscorer in Naughton came 3rd.
                              We've been crying out for a forward/ second ruck and that is where Lobb fits in. Once he is retired Sammy Darcy takes over.

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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                Re: Rory Lobb

                                Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                                We've been crying out for a forward/ second ruck and that is where Lobb fits in. Once he is retired Sammy Darcy takes over.
                                yeah my point was more that Freo are asking us for a heck of a lot for a 30 year old that they rated 10th in their B&F

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