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[jeemak]

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Can’t just excuse the coaches for not seeing the players aren’t up today? Too much faith in them. What’s the Allan jeans line about sausages?

“They’re like sausages – you can boil them, grill them or curry them, but ultimately they’re still sausages."

That makes so much sense to me now, I completely get it.

But to the post you quoted, what sort of coach are you getting if it's not Beveridge?

[bulldogtragic]

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“They’re like sausages – you can boil them, grill them or curry them, but ultimately they’re still sausages."

That makes so much sense to me now, I completely get it.

But to the post you quoted, what sort of coach are you getting if it's not Beveridge?

Is BBQ the same as grilling in this processed fat/meat metaphor? I’ve not heard this one before.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I think it's clear it's the players at this point.

You don't dish up the last month of footy if you're no good or poorly coached. But good teams also don't turn up and dish out that crap today after having done the exact same vs Port only 5 weeks ago.

The problem Bevo has is that if it keeps happening, and they keep failing when it matters, ultimately he wears it.

Fascinating end to the year coming up. Miss finals and WO would be on fire. Make it and get bundled out and questions will still be asked.

Pass mark has to be week 2 and competitive. It wouldn't surprise if we made it to the Grand Final or dropped the next 2 games, such is the history of this list.

[JanLorMill]

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Is BBQ the same as grilling in this processed fat/meat metaphor? I’ve not heard this one before.

I think Jeans actually borrowed it from Len Smith? Norms brother together with the ‘pay the price’ story.

[JanLorMill]

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“They’re like sausages – you can boil them, grill them or curry them, but ultimately they’re still sausages."

That makes so much sense to me now, I completely get it.

But to the post you quoted, what sort of coach are you getting if it's not Beveridge?

I’d happily take bevo a lot longer if we made top 4 or win a final. I definitely think we have underachieved if we don’t.

[FrediKanoute]

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No a lot has changed and changed quite a bit if you compare to the last few seasons, yeah shit performance today and maybe the team just got ahead of itself? You play like we have over the past few months with a couple of bad hiccups to see things are improving and with todays loss we put ourselves in a vulnerable position.

What is missing from the coaches box do you see?

In some ways it?s the loss we were due. To go all the way we were going to have to win 11 straight. Just won?t happen, so at least this loss means that it?s 6 straight to win the GF.

[jeemak]

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I’d happily take bevo a lot longer if we made top 4 or win a final. I definitely think we have underachieved if we don’t.

I still think we're a year or two away in development of JUH and Darcy, some shoring up of our key defensive stocks, and some major attention to our wings and forward flanks in quality and speed before I'm thinking top four is a pass mark. Plus we need to seriously think about Libba's tenure and how we can inject more speed outside of Richards into our core midfield mix.

Weightman not finishing well really worries me becuase he's not productive enough if he isn't. On top of that if he's not finishing well then we're relying on West, VDM and McNeil to deliver quality in finishing and connection, or Poulter to be really influential. And I don't think those guys can do it consistently where the good teams have good players in those roles who can.

In light of all of that a credible alternate view of our current status is the coaching effort has been enormous and the major contributing factor to us even being a chance of making the eight and rattling some cages.

[JanLorMill]

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In some ways it?s the loss we were due. To go all the way we were going to have to win 11 straight. Just won?t happen, so at least this loss means that it?s 6 straight to win the GF.

It was 10 with a top 4 finish . The way we were playing I didn’t see it as a problem, other clubs have done it, we don’t.

[mighty_west]

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It was 10 with a top 4 finish . The way we were playing I didn’t see it as a problem, other clubs have done it, we don’t.

Not too many this season though, maybe the comp is just so even it's just too hard to win so many consecutive games? Sydney and Hawks may have won 10 plus during the season, not sure there were many others? But then Sydney lose quite a few in a row. The Crows only just lost to Geelong last week at GMHBCDEFGHIJK Stadium last week so maybe it wasn't such a big boil over?

[hujsh]

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I think it's clear it's the players at this point.

You don't dish up the last month of footy if you're no good or poorly coached. But good teams also don't turn up and dish out that crap today after having done the exact same vs Port only 5 weeks ago.

The problem Bevo has is that if it keeps happening, and they keep failing when it matters, ultimately he wears it.

Fascinating end to the year coming up. Miss finals and WO would be on fire. Make it and get bundled out and questions will still be asked.

Pass mark has to be week 2 and competitive. It wouldn't surprise if we made it to the Grand Final or dropped the next 2 games, such is the history of this list.

Well... are there any good teams in the league by that metric? You could probably point to pretty much any other team in the 8 and find similar letdowns.

[azabob]

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Weightman not finishing well really worries me becuase he's not productive enough if he isn't. .

Ever since Weightman did a fluff piece in the paper a few weeks back his goal kicking has gone downhill.

I am still 100% in the keep Bevo camp. He looks fresh and up for the challenge for our next tilt.

During 2022 and parts of 2023 I don't think Bevo was 100% sure why we were a middling team.

This year is the complete opposite; we have a clear vision on our gameplan and what type of players we need to execute the game plan. Coupled with we actually have 28-30 players who are capable of playing AFL football.

I think it is paramount we keep both Daniel and Macrae 2025 and beyond purely to keep pressure on our senior core players and the standards high in our VFL program.

[Bornadog]

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Not too many this season though, maybe the comp is just so even it's just too hard to win so many consecutive games? Sydney and Hawks may have won 10 plus during the season, not sure there were many others? But then Sydney lose quite a few in a row. The Crows only just lost to Geelong last week at GMHBCDEFGHIJK Stadium last week so maybe it wasn't such a big boil over?

Crows beat some good teams during the year - Carlton, GWS, draw v Lions, Port. Wouldn't surprise me if they beat Port again next week.

[Happy Days]

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Well... are there any good teams in the league by that metric? You could probably point to pretty much any other team in the 8 and find similar letdowns.

No. No one is actually good in professional sports, it’s just a bunch of teams slowly revealing that they suck. Making a grand final and losing is actually pathetic and any team that has done it should feel bad about it.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Well... are there any good teams in the league by that metric? You could probably point to pretty much any other team in the 8 and find similar letdowns.

5 weeks apart at the same ground?

That Port game was spoken about at length behind closed doors, so I would have hoped a trip back to the same venue would have yielded a better effort than what we put forward yesterday.

[hujsh]

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5 weeks apart at the same ground?

That Port game was spoken about at length behind closed doors, so I would have hoped a trip back to the same venue would have yielded a better effort than what we put forward yesterday.

C'mon, I said similar not exact. Every team has been inconsistent this year and we've just had 4 really good wins. It's not surprising we'd drop one now that's the nature of the comp. We had a down week and the crows were released from any expectation or pressure with some key players returning. If we lose against North I might chuck my rattle out of the pram but if we lose against GWS and miss finals that's because we weren't good enough in the first half of the year not because we didn't win 8 in a row or whatever.