Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

[lemmon]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Ok -- so for starters he's just a kid so I don't expect too much.

For me it's his movement and contest.

He competes really well in the air and on the ground. He spreads well and gets himself into good positions on transition both ways.

Stats wise I get it, however I think that will come with experience.

He also kicked a goal yay.

If I compare him to Buku, who we all love no doubt, he just has his covered for smarts.

Of course he is fringe and certainly don't expect him to have a secure spot.

I don't see what you're seeing, but that implies we're choosing not to use him when he's touched the ball 20 times in four games of footy (and half of those disposals came in one game against the Sun).

I think his selection is Bevo not wanting to admit he's got this wrong.

He was brought in for a small, made us far too top heavy and we still haven't addressed that imbalance - we're way too big in the front half, lacking run off a half-back flank and playing a guy who has played one decent half of footy in four games against the Suns.

I like his raw talent and think he could be a real player, but this weird utility role he's playing at the moment is not good for him and it's hurting the side as a whole. He either needs to be selected as one of our 2 or 3 key defenders, or he needs to be developing at Footscray till we think he is in our best 2 or 3 key defenders.

[macca]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

I would've played Cleary and Crozier this week, but my guess is we're looking at him to bring pace off a half-bank flank. We're pretty slow down there without JJ and Richards, and that's made a bit worse without Baker in the side as well. My guess is he's come in to play behind the ball and try to break some lines.

Has VDM been doing that in VFL games ? I am not convinced he can kick accurately

Lets see how he does it in afl games

[G-Mo77]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Can someone post what Vandermeer has done to get a game over Cleary ? Sweet is the perpetual emergency even after a good vfl game, whilst Lobb deserved to be dropped. Imo Cleary, Khamis and Sweet should leave for other clubs, their treatment at the dogs is appalling. Baker has had just one midly off game, he was good before then and we need his speed.

I think once you're in the doghouse it's hard to get out under this regime. You see players who do not perform get games week after week when others are given once chance to cement their spot and then sent back to the VFL to rot. I'm happy enough to let JOD get games but it's pretty clear he needs to move back to the VFL to work on his craft. He's still getting picked?

Vandermeer seems to have a special place in the MC hearts as well, average at best at VFL level, walks into the team on the back of a questionable 2 year contract extension.

It's nothing new, every week there seems to be questionable Ins and Outs and while this week, to me, seems to make a bit of sense I can see why supporters are putting their arms out and questioning why on some of them.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Has VDM been doing that in VFL games ? I am not convinced he can kick accurately

Lets see how he does it in afl games

Played as a forward lately and no he can't kick accurately. Can run well but is not great by foot at all.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Has VDM been doing that in VFL games ? I am not convinced he can kick accurately

Lets see how he does it in afl games

We’ve got 2.5 more years to see…

[macca]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

We’ve got 2.5 more years to see…

BT, I only can HOPE and look optimistically for his talent to emerge in those 2.5 years

I am starting to question some of our young player's development vs the need to constant shift for versatility.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

BT, I only can HOPE and look optimistically for his talent to emerge in those 2.5 years

I am starting to question some of our young player's development vs the need to constant shift for versatility.

Well he was drafted as a HBF. Let’s see if that’s his best position. Because he’s not a good forward. So let’s see if players going back to their natural positions get results like JJ?

[Axe Man]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Played as a forward lately and no he can't kick accurately. Can run well but is not great by foot at all.

Latest VFL report:

Laith Vandermeer
18 disposals, three marks, two inside 50s

“Laith was good off half-back - he gave us plenty of drive. It was one of those ones where with more exposure to that half-back role, he seems to be transferring that knowledge from Jamie (Maddocks) onto the field. It looks pretty dangerous with him coming off half-back.”

[hujsh]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Played as a forward lately and no he can't kick accurately. Can run well but is not great by foot at all.

Well, neither could Boyd until he was in defence, and even at his Norm Smith best JJ often couldn't either. We'll have to see if the position change helps with that aspect of his game.

[GVGjr]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Can someone post what Vandermeer has done to get a game over Cleary ? Sweet is the perpetual emergency even after a good vfl game, whilst Lobb deserved to be dropped. Imo Cleary, Khamis and Sweet should leave for other clubs, their treatment at the dogs is appalling. Baker has had just one midly off game, he was good before then and we need his speed.

Who knows for sure but with our best runners from the back line out in Richards and JJ plus Baker being dropped I guess Vandermeer should be able to provide us some dash from the back line.
He trained there a few times in the summer and was going okay.

[Scorlibo]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

I don't mind the omission of Baker as he has been missing easy targets by foot for over a month, and I think Scott can offer us better value up the field.

Gardner has been my whipping boy for a while but I do feel like he's unlucky on this occasion. Made some dreadful errors against the Cats but also did some good things. Overall I just don't see that he offers less than Bruce, who we know is likely to turn it over by foot in bad spots.

Keath for O'Brien - meh - reward the VFL form, sure.

O'Donnell's selection is purely stubbornness on Bevo's part at this point.

Vandermeer's selection must be based on him bringing pace to the side. I get that, but also there's more than one way to create space, and Cleary does this so well in the VFL with his composure, agility and decision making. There must be something more at play with Cleary, off field indiscretions or the like. He's in the bad books for some reason.

Good luck to Rhylee, hope he can bring a good contest at the drop of the ball.

[Bullies]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Played as a forward lately and no he can't kick accurately. Can run well but is not great by foot at all.

Probably the bonus with VDM not getting it much is the fact that his skills are no good.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Who knows for sure but with our best runners from the back line out in Richards and JJ plus Baker being dropped I guess Vandermeer should be able to provide us some dash from the back line.
He trained there a few times in the summer and was going okay.

Yep. There's a spot there for someone who offers linebreaking speed. VDM is that type, Cleary isn't. I'd still like to see Cleary in but get why VDM is in.

[JanLorMill]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Can't say Gardner was unlucky because he made a few mistakes against Geelong, he did the same against Gold Coast. Nothing special vs Carlton

[GVGjr]

Re: Always Right Match Committee Round 13 v Port Adelaide

Can't say Gardner was unlucky because he made a few mistakes against Geelong, he did the same against Gold Coast. Nothing special vs Carlton

I thought he played very well against Adelaide as well.