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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11246

    #91
    Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

    Originally posted by Topdog
    Going to be hard to add depth by giving away our 1st rounder next season.
    Assumption would be we might have multiple R2 / R3 picks, which we haven't had for a while.
    W00F!

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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7471

      #92
      Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      Not picking on these two. Maybe they are right.

      This isn't questioning. This is we are clearly wrong. If I was this absolute, I would want Power and co. gone. And maybe they should be.
      You can only talk about these things with the information you have at hand. Obviously we dont know everything and maybe our recruiters are saying get into the top 5 and we have a generational talent coming through.

      On face value this looks a very poor trade, I havent looked into the history but this seems like an unprecedented trade.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #93
        Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

        Originally posted by hujsh
        The future first is the hard to swallow part. If it was a future second I wouldn't be against it but if we play next year the way we finished this year pick 4-7 could well be what we're trading here. The club is gambling super hard on shooting up the ladder but they've expected us to be top 4 the last 2 years and failed badly so I don't trust their judgement TBH. Maybe Sam has been told to treat future picks as if we finish top 6. If so it explains why he's made such a bad deal.
        Gambling is it in a nutshell. Our firm line is not giving me the confidence to gamble with our most valuable asset of 2024. (Currently)
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7702

          #94
          Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          Not picking on these two. Maybe they are right.

          This isn't questioning. This is we are clearly wrong. If I was this absolute, I would want Power and co. gone. And maybe they should be.
          To be fair to Power, I think this reflects on Grant and co more than anyone else and I've been leaning towards him going even before this trade. If Power has been tasked with getting a top 5 pick, this may well be the only deal that'll get it done. Who's decision is it to say if it's too high a price or not?

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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6932

            #95
            Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

            I think it looks a bad deal but very open to not having all the information. Perhaps it is a brave and super clever one.

            Those who believe it is an egregiously bad decision and clear mistake, do you want Power and/or Grant gone? If I was absolute on this, I'd be wanting changes to the set up asap.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11844

              #96
              Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
              I think it looks a bad deal but very open to not having all the information. Perhaps it is a brave and super clever one.

              Those who believe it is an egregiously bad decision and clear mistake, do you want Power and/or Grant gone? If I was absolute on this, I'd be wanting changes to the set up asap.
              I'll wait to see the explanation from the club but at the end of the draft period if the explanation doesn't hold up and/or we don't get who we want (Watson or McKercher right?) then it's time for Grant to move on IMO.
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                #97
                Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                I think it looks a bad deal but very open to not having all the information. Perhaps it is a brave and super clever one.

                Those who believe it is an egregiously bad decision and clear mistake, do you want Power and/or Grant gone? If I was absolute on this, I'd be wanting changes to the set up asap.
                It's gambling. There is nothing savvy or clever here, they are gambling our future. They need to be walked out now before this is official.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #98
                  Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  I'll wait to see the explanation from the club but at the end of the draft period if the explanation doesn't hold up and/or we don't get who we want (Watson or McKercher right?) then it's time for Grant to move on IMO.
                  Time for a refresh in any event. Like Rohan Smith, eventually everyone finishes at the club. I’d like Grant to retire after the draft irrespective.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • The Pie Man
                    Coaching Staff
                    • May 2008
                    • 3497

                    #99
                    Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                    Wouldn’t be surprised if we trade into next years first round - top 5 picks are gold, I’m comfortable enough with this
                    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5649

                      Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                      Yeh it doesn't really matter to me what the plan is for 2024 - if we trade Baz and English and get three new first rounders, or whatever else. If that happened, we should be having those picks PLUS our future first which we are giving up needlessly.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                        The club, Bevo in particular, says we don’t have depth. So we trade out three first rounders/kids for top end depth.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7702

                          Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                          Anyone know how compromised next year's draft could be? This year's would have to be one of the worst on record with the North handouts and now the AFELs incompetence in not adjusting free agency compo in line with the new CBA.

                          This year's draft is probably a good one to get out of.

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                          • The Adelaide Connection
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 2787

                            Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                            Are we even sure Croft will nominate us? Is he waiting to get an assurance from us that will hinge on the picks being traded?

                            Wouldn’t it be amazing if we did all this and he suddenly decided against coming.

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                            • Rocco Jones
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 6932

                              Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                              Originally posted by G-Mo77
                              It's gambling. There is nothing savvy or clever here, they are gambling our future. They need to be walked out now before this is official.
                              Yeah, this is the response I was looking for. So you are so sure it is wrong, not so much that you know better, but perhaps that you know they should be gone? I am not one for being so absolute but that's me.

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6932

                                Re: Pick 4 - what's the right price?

                                If we believe 4 looks elite and 10 and 17 relatively meh, should we have just accepted our hand if Suns said not enough? Going through possibilities with those who seem certain if it's wrong.

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