Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

[PR0408]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Understand pace. You can't teach speed. However fitness? Fitness you can improve with work can't you?

That?s the dumbest thing I have read on here. Of course you can increase your speed especially if you haven?t trained it.
Look on instagram on The speed project profile. Look at the players starting speeds and how much they increase after 6 weeks of training.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

That?s the dumbest thing I have read on here. Of course you can increase your speed especially if you haven?t trained it.
Look on instagram on The speed project profile. Look at the players starting speeds and how much they increase after 6 weeks of training.

The dumbest thing you have read here. Now that is harsh.

Of course you can improve within your own spectrum. But speed is absolutely limited by your genetics. You think if Libba just did speed training and nothing else for two years he would even come close to the top end speed of JJ? Can you train to be explosive out of a stoppage like prime Judd or Cooney? No you can't.

You can not teach top end speed and that is why recruiters look for it and value it so highly. There are definiltey genetic influences on endurance too, but you can improve that relatively better than speed in what is required for AFL football.

[Happy Days]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Dumbest thing I ever read on here was people advocating to trade for Matthew Bate.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Dumbest thing I ever read on here was people advocating to trade for Matthew Bate.

Oh could have had another redhead with Master Bates

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

I like Buku. There is a lot to work with. But his still not fit enough. He gets found out at ground level and misses easy tackles.

I think his defensive efforts will improve with more senior exposure. I think he will be a reliable league footy player in 12 months time if he gets the game time.

Agree. Good when he gets a run and jump at it, gets lost and looks very slow when he?s transitioning back from further upfield - opponents are just blowing past him as he runs in sand.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Yeah I'm unconvinced on Khamis.

Intercepting well, which is something we haven't had, but his passive defending and inability to be a physical presence / show the requisite intensity for the contest will hold him back

He's done well to improve this much though.

[mjp]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Yeah I'm unconvinced on Khamis.

Intercepting well, which is something we haven't had, but his passive defending and inability to be a physical presence / show the requisite intensity for the contest will hold him back

He's done well to improve this much though.

Did the lazy high tackle free kick in the last minute with the game on the line not convince you?

Be RELIABLE!!! So frustrating. I know criticising West is akin to shooting bambi but he had two really poor efforts on the camera side in the last couple of minutes as well...the contrast between Petracca's desperation to mark the footy near the boundary on Thursday night and Rhylee letting it go out of bounds last night was stark.

Any way. We can pull the last quarter apart contest by contest but that wasn't where it was lost...pretty sure we all know that happened when we conceded 4 out of 5 goals in q2. Just such a bummer as for large parts of the game we were the better side.

[Bornadog]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

happened when we conceded 4 out of 5 goals in q2. Just such a bummer as for large parts of the game we were the better side.

We both kicked 4 in the 2nd quarter

[kickit2Koly]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

Dumbest thing I ever read on here was people advocating to trade for Matthew Bate.

who was the port Ruckmen we apparently offered a first round pick for? Thankfully they knocked it back.

that was worse, he was out of the league for years later.

[chef]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

who was the port Ruckmen we apparently offered a first round pick for? Thankfully they knocked it back.

that was worse, he was out of the league for years later.

Lobbe.

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

who was the port Ruckmen we apparently offered a first round pick for? Thankfully they knocked it back.

that was worse, he was out of the league for years later.

Lobbe wasn't it?

[Happy Days]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

who was the port Ruckmen we apparently offered a first round pick for? Thankfully they knocked it back.

that was worse, he was out of the league for years later.

Lobbe. We were so determined to burn that first, personally I would’ve just kept it and drafted Charlie Curnow.

[mjp]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

We both kicked 4 in the 2nd quarter

I know. And Geelong kick 4-out-of-5 in one little period...

We kicked 2.
They kicked 2.
We kicked 1.
They kicked 2 more.

In the 3rd, they kicked 6 and we kicked 5.
We kicked 1, they kicked 3.
We kicked 1, they kicked ANOTHER 3.

We kicked 3 goals to 1 in the last q. The last q was NOT the problem. It was the goals leaked in little clusters during the 3rd q - and in particular the 2nd q - when we were on top.

[Bornadog]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

I know. And Geelong kick 4-out-of-5 in one little period...

We kicked 2.
They kicked 2.
We kicked 1.
They kicked 2 more.

In the 3rd, they kicked 6 and we kicked 5.
We kicked 1, they kicked 3.
We kicked 1, they kicked ANOTHER 3.

We kicked 3 goals to 1 in the last q. The last q was NOT the problem. It was the goals leaked in little clusters during the 3rd q - and in particular the 2nd q - when we were on top.

ok, that explains what you meant.

I think where we lost it was in the second half of the last quarter, when for 5 or more minutes, there were no scores and they denied us the ball, by chipping it around and wasting time. Those 5 minutes were vital to the outcome.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Bulldogs V Cats - Round 4 (Gather Round), 6/4/24 Adelaide Oval 8:10pm AEST

ok, that explains what you meant.

I think where we lost it was in the second half of the last quarter, when for 5 or more minutes, there were no scores and they denied us the ball, by chipping it around and wasting time. Those 5 minutes were vital to the outcome.

I agree with mjp that we lost it earlier in the game when they built the lead. The back to back Stengle goals late in the third which made the lead 28 points were the killers for me...even though we fought hard and finished the quarter with Bont and West goals, we had let them get too far ahead.