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    Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

    The time has almost come, so I figured some intelligent discussion on the matter could concur ASAP. It has been a long season, but unfortunately I think that loss over the weekend allowed it to come to a close.

    Is there anyone in YOUR opinion who you think we should trade/trade for? What is the best option for us coming out of the draft, is Ayce Cordy a given?

    In my opinion Ayce Cordy should be locked in, he is another project forward with loads of talent. I would also like to see atleast another midfielder and a Key position backman, because it seems in times like these we're struggling for one of those.

    What other activity can we see happening from other clubs?

    Discuss.
  • Mantis
    Hall of Fame
    • Apr 2007
    • 15446

    #2
    Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

    Lets just wait til the season finishes.

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    • Bulldogs_6

      #3
      Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

      Originally posted by Mantis
      Lets just wait til the season finishes.
      Bit premature, I know, but why not have a discussion about this topic?? Not exactly going to effect the team's peformance which is inevitable that they win

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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7579

        #4
        Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

        Alot depends on what's on offer doesn't it. For example, if Hawthorn offered up Tim Boyle for Farren Ray, we'd say that wasn't enough, but if they offered up Buddy for him, we'd snatch their arms off.

        I guess what I'm trying to say is that most players could be traded, dependant upon what was traded in return.

        I wouldn't trade the following players because I'd want to keep them or *there would be no value for them:

        Robert Murphy
        Callan Ward
        Lindsay Gilbee
        Ryan Griffen
        Adam Cooney
        Josh Hill
        Brian Lake
        Dale Morris
        Andrejs Everitt
        Tom Williams
        *Brad Johnson
        *Scott West
        *Jason Akermanis
        *Tim Callan
        *Ben Hudson
        *Scott Welsh
        *Nathan Eagleton

        I would be reluctant to trade these, but would if the right offer came along:

        Farren Ray
        Daniel Cross
        Matthew Boyd
        Mitch Hahn
        Daniel Giansiracusa
        Shaun Higgins
        Dylan Addison
        Ryan Hargrave
        Will Minson
        Jarrod Harbrow

        Of these, then there would have to be some pretty good offers on the table. Please don't read into this that I want to trade these players, I DON'T, but if an offer too good to refuse was made...

        I would definitely consider trading:

        Malcolm Lynch
        Wayde Skipper
        Peter Street
        Cameron Wight
        Stephen Tiller

        Then there are the Pups who are exempt from this exercise to some degree:

        Jarrad Boumann
        Jarrad Grant
        Guy O'Keefe
        Paul O'Shea
        Sam Reid
        Brennan Stack
        Easton Wood
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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10142

          #5
          Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

          Originally posted by The Coon Dog
          I would definitely consider trading:

          Malcolm Lynch
          Wayde Skipper
          Peter Street
          Cameron Wight
          Stephen Tiller
          Who would want any of these players?

          We would be lucky to get pick #200 for Wight or Tiller, and no one would take the other 3 because they could pick them up in one of the drafts after we delist them for nothing. You've got to give a little to get a little.

          I like the idea of Tim Boyle. Hawthorn can't seem to find a spot for him and we could get him for a lot less than what we were looking at paying last trade period. Perhaps our third rounder could get it done.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • The Coon Dog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7579

            #6
            Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

            Originally posted by Farren Ray FTW
            Who would want any of these players?

            We would be lucky to get pick #200 for Wight or Tiller, and no one would take the other 3 because they could pick them up in one of the drafts after we delist them for nothing. You've got to give a little to get a little.

            I like the idea of Tim Boyle. Hawthorn can't seem to find a spot for him and we could get him for a lot less than what we were looking at paying last trade period. Perhaps our third rounder could get it done.
            Fair points too.

            I wouldn't touch Tim Boyle. He's 3rd banana at Hawthorn at the moment & did OK when playing as the 3rd tall in some games last season, but no way he's a number 1 tall target, even if his Dad did play 6 games for Footscray.
            [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15446

              #7
              Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

              Originally posted by Farren Ray FTW
              Who would want any of these players?

              We would be lucky to get pick #200 for Wight or Tiller, and no one would take the other 3 because they could pick them up in one of the drafts after we delist them for nothing. You've got to give a little to get a little.

              I like the idea of Tim Boyle. Hawthorn can't seem to find a spot for him and we could get him for a lot less than what we were looking at paying last trade period. Perhaps our third rounder could get it done.
              I wouldn't really worry about this list.

              The reluctant to trade list is where the serious trading could take place, as these guys have value.

              TCD, pretty good work on the lists too, can't disagree with many of your choices.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11841

                #8
                Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                Alot depends on what's on offer doesn't it. For example, if Hawthorn offered up Tim Boyle for Farren Ray, we'd say that wasn't enough, but if they offered up Buddy for him, we'd snatch their arms off.

                I guess what I'm trying to say is that most players could be traded, dependant upon what was traded in return.

                I wouldn't trade the following players because I'd want to keep them or *there would be no value for them:

                Robert Murphy
                Callan Ward
                Lindsay Gilbee
                Ryan Griffen
                Adam Cooney
                Josh Hill
                Brian Lake
                Dale Morris
                Andrejs Everitt
                Tom Williams
                *Brad Johnson
                *Scott West
                *Jason Akermanis
                *Tim Callan
                *Ben Hudson
                *Scott Welsh
                *Nathan Eagleton
                Who cares if we get little for him. Happy to let him sabotage a team from the inside
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • The Coon Dog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7579

                  #9
                  Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  Who cares if we get little for him. Happy to let him sabotage a team from the inside

                  We wouldn't get anything for him hujsh, that's why he's in that list.
                  [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11841

                    #10
                    Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                    We wouldn't get anything for him hujsh, that's why he's in that list.
                    I'd reckon someone might make a spot for him.
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • The Pie Man
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2008
                      • 3497

                      #11
                      Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      I'd reckon someone might make a spot for him.
                      Who might look for a top up? ........ RICHMOND!!!! Wallace traded for him originally....
                      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11248

                        #12
                        Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                        I wouldn't touch Tim Boyle. He's 3rd banana at Hawthorn at the moment & did OK when playing as the 3rd tall in some games last season, but no way he's a number 1 tall target, even if his Dad did play 6 games for Footscray.
                        Boyle's career is far worse than Scott Welsh's and we have him already. In fact his career is sub-par even compared to someone like Brad Fisher. He is a spud, plain and simple, and Pelchan would not be able to get rid of him quick enough if a half decent trade offer came their way.

                        Pelchan lucked in when he traded away Nathan Thompson for a 1st and 2nd rounder, and then the following year he got 2 first-rounders for Jon Hay. Now he tries to rape and pillage every club that attempts to deal with Hawthorn. A bit like when nobody wanted to deal with Sheeds any more because he kept screwing everyone.
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11248

                          #13
                          Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                          I'd be interested in Daniel Harris. You can't have enough inside contested ball-winning midfielders in your side and he would cost a whole lot less than Kerr while essentially performing the same function (albeit not quite at the same level). Safe to say he is on the nose with Laidley and will be looking for a new home in 2009.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • The Coon Dog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7579

                            #14
                            Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            I'd be interested in Daniel Harris. You can't have enough inside contested ball-winning midfielders in your side and he would cost a whole lot less than Kerr while essentially performing the same function (albeit not quite at the same level). Safe to say he is on the nose with Laidley and will be looking for a new home in 2009.
                            Maybe they could return the favour & send him our way for a similar pick to what we received for Sam Power.
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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11245

                              #15
                              Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

                              Harris is a good player, but another slow midfielder who doesn't have the best skills? Is it what we need at this stage? I find it hard to see a midfield of Cross, Boyd & Harris working.

                              Good player though.
                              W00F!

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