Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

[MrMahatma]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Two big ifs. Williams hasn't shown he is durable enough to play a complete season at any level of AFL football besides a shorter schoolboy level in a non-AFL state.
Everitt may just have a case of 2nd year blues - I don't think he'll be physically ready to play a real CHB role for another few years, given talls take longer to develop and he was drafted as a skinny tall at that.

We need a CHB desperately and realistically don't have anyone on the list who can play the role in 2009. At this stage, I'd consider a C/D-grader who has enough ticker just to make a contest.

FWIW - Williams hasn't had a full pre-season yet. He's been put out to pasture early this year, and had his operation, so should be able to get full conditioning over summer, which will help a load with the soft tissue injuries he's had. I'm pretty confident that next year will be a full season for Tom.

[Desipura]

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Ray has had a falling out with Rocket on the weekend. It it highly likely he has played his last game at the Dogs.

[LostDoggy]

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Ray has had a falling out with Rocket on the weekend. It it highly likely he has played his last game at the Dogs.

What do you base this on? It's not surprising the Ray got a spray from the coach after his last performance. People on these forums cast aspersions about Grant, Boumann say Ray's not committed, the team don't get along with Aker, never back up their statements. How much of this stuff is truth and how much is 1 + 1 = 3?

[Go_Dogs]

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What do you base this on? It's not surprising the Ray got a spray from the coach after his last performance. People on these forums cast aspersions about Grant, Boumann say Ray's not committed, the team don't get along with Aker, never back up their statements. How much of this stuff is truth and how much is 1 + 1 = 3?

FWIW Desipura is usually on the money.

Not a good week for something like this to develop.

[Mantis]

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What do you base this on? It's not surprising the Ray got a spray from the coach after his last performance. People on these forums cast aspersions about Grant, Boumann say Ray's not committed, the team don't get along with Aker, never back up their statements. How much of this stuff is truth and how much is 1 + 1 = 3?

I think you would find that people on this forum in particular have facts to back up there stories.

[LostDoggy]

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I think you would find that people on this forum in particular have facts to back up there stories.

If thats the case, we are going to lose a pick 4 for probably nothing (WC and Fremantle have picks 2 & 3 for uncontracted players), and are top 2 young talls have attitude problems. I have been following the gods for all of my 37 years and am sick of the bad news and disappointment, where is the good news folks? Clubs trade on hope and I am gradually losing all hope that I will see a premiership.

[DOG GOD]

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If thats the case, we are going to lose a pick 4 for probably nothing (WC and Fremantle have picks 2 & 3 for uncontracted players), and are top 2 young talls have attitude problems. I have been following the gods for all of my 37 years and am sick of the bad news and disappointment, where is the good news folks? Clubs trade on hope and I am gradually losing all hope that I will see a premiership.

Its all about getting a TEAM together where all areas are covered with players that can DO THEIR JOB week in and week out. Hopefully this will come together over the next 2-3 years...just gotta hope that teams like Geelong and Hawthorn slack off a bit. No use having a premiership window opened when the same breeze is going through the windows of 3-4 other teams.

[westdog54]

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If thats the case, we are going to lose a pick 4 for probably nothing (WC and Fremantle have picks 2 & 3 for uncontracted players), and are top 2 young talls have attitude problems. I have been following the gods for all of my 37 years and am sick of the bad news and disappointment, where is the good news folks? Clubs trade on hope and I am gradually losing all hope that I will see a premiership.

Hold your horses on that one.

If you're referring to Grant and Boumann, then you're only half right, and the one with the attitude problem has started to realise as such. The other half of the equation would be the least of your concerns.

[Desipura]

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It is not a rumour. It is a little difficult for me to say who told me. I have replied to my PM's all be in a cryptic way, it is not too difficult to figure it out.

[Sedat]

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It is not a rumour. It is a little difficult for me to say who told me. I have replied to my PM's all be in a cryptic way, it is not too difficult to figure it out.

It's a shame about Ray...

[Twodogs]

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It's a shame about Ray...

It was Evan Dando?????

[Mofra]

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FWIW - Williams hasn't had a full pre-season yet. He's been put out to pasture early this year, and had his operation, so should be able to get full conditioning over summer, which will help a load with the soft tissue injuries he's had. I'm pretty confident that next year will be a full season for Tom.

I'd be over the moon for Tom if it was a full season (by all accounts a level-headed, hard worker off the field as well as a needed player on it). The variety of injuries sustained thus far (both skeletal & soft tissue) don't fill me with much confidence.

[Mofra]

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You just mentioned 2 who realistically could play the role. The definition of the CHB role also needs to be clarified as how many 'true' CHF's are there? I think the better term is tall defender's and we need to have 3 of these playing. I think Lake, Williams and Everitt will comfortably fill these roles for us next year.

No, I have detailed reasons why they couldn't realistically play the role, at least not in the short term.

[Twodogs]

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We are never going to reach an agreement on this but I still think the 2nd round is a reasonable price to pay over all the father son selections. You pay a fair price and yet you don't get an out and out bargain except in some instances.
I still don't get why another team should be able to bid for the son of say Scott Wynd?
We should either agree to the selection or take our chances of getting him in the draft in the 3rd or 4th rounds etc

We get far too carried away with some of the players that Geelong picked up. If you average it out F/S picks have a fairly low success rate, there are a few who are superstars but the way we carry on it's as if being a F/S selection is some sort of easy entree to footballing success. Hird, Hargrave, Tuck are just a few who didnt go F/S but are now making or made great careers for themselves.

The system is open to clubs manipulating it as well. Clubs will start to nominate players in order to force clubs to pick F/S's earlier than they would have. It doesnt matter whether they have to take them or not because club's will have to take eligible F/S's or the supporters will tear grandstands apart if they dont.


Mark my words-we are going to be dudded big time over this. It's us who will be forced to pay over the odds for the Liberatores, Wallis and Cordy's. As soon as a Collingwood or an interstate club have a problem it'll be changed back.



When they bought in this ridiculous new system they should have dropped the eligibilty back to one game to even it up.

[The Coon Dog]

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When they bought in this ridiculous new system they should have dropped the eligibilty back to one game to even it up.

I have heard that they will revert to 50 games from next season, not the 100 games as it stands currently.