Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

[Desipura]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

On the live-chat of the Hun today, Aker said we need to focus on a ruckman. Interesting that was his priority not a forward KPP.

If that is more the reality from the clubs perspective, should we look as Simon Taylor and get in his ear about missing the grand final? Are their others out there.

Skipper is the only back-up and is not to AFL standard as a ruk.

Interesting.

And Aker would be correct although we need a fwd as much as we need a ruckman.

[Mantis]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Do we look at a Ray for Lovett trade?

[Desipura]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Do we look at a Ray for Lovett trade?

We do......but Essendon won't!

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

We do......but Essendon won't!

Why wouldn't they?

I doubt they'd be offered much better. They aren't shopping him around because he wants to leave, they're shopping him around because he's had too many indiscretions. Therefore, surely his price is not worthy of a first round draft pick.

IMO the trade would make sense. Ray moves to Essendon for greater opportunity and helps them with a bit of experience/running ability, whilst we pick up another needed ball carrier with genuine pace.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Why wouldn't they?

I doubt they'd be offered much better. They aren't shopping him around because he wants to leave, they're shopping him around because he's had too many indiscretions. Therefore, surely his price is not worthy of a first round draft pick.

IMO the trade would make sense. Ray moves to Essendon for greater opportunity and helps them with a bit of experience/running ability, whilst we pick up another needed ball carrier with genuine pace.

I agree. If Farren had a great year, you'd say he was worth more. Lovett hasn't had a brilliant year, but is worth more on face value. Then factor in all his problems and untaken second opportunities, and haggling aside, it is probably a very close thing. Lovett would be good for us if he keeps his head on straiht and Ray would be a good fit for the dons.

I think unless someone is going to offer us a semi-decent KPP for him (i.e. Rusling, Reid, Thorpe etc - Which is very highly unlikely) then i think this could be a good straight swap.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

2008 Comparison

Stat - Lovett - Ray

Age: 26 -22
Height: 183 - 187
Weight: 75 - 84

Kick: 12 - 7.9
H/ball: 6.2 - 11.2
Tackles: 2.8 - 2.5
Marks: 4.3 - 5.8
Goals: 0.8 - 0.3


Lovett is 4 years older, has discipline issues, is smaller and lighter than Farren and averages less possessions and less marks than Farren and tackles and scores just about at the same level.

Looks similar to me.

Essendon should be thinking long and hard about it. They get a player looking to establish themselves in their own right as a former number 4 pick. His head is screwed on right, he would be one of the quickest and fittest at the club and is a few years advanced of the group Knights is putting together.

Win/Win or nil all draw.

Either way, it would ge a good trade.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

I didn't realise Lovett was 26?

Are you sure that's correct?

I thought he was still reasonably young. 23 or 24ish.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

I didn't realise Lovett was 26?

Are you sure that's correct?

I thought he was still reasonably young. 23 or 24ish.

25 and 10 months to be more accurate.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

2008 Comparison

Stat - Lovett - Ray

Age: 26 -22
Height: 183 - 187
Weight: 75 - 84

Kick: 12 - 7.9
H/ball: 6.2 - 11.2
Tackles: 2.8 - 2.5
Marks: 4.3 - 5.8
Goals: 0.8 - 0.3


Lovett is 4 years older, has discipline issues, is smaller and lighter than Farren and averages less possessions and less marks than Farren and tackles and scores just about at the same level.

Looks similar to me.

Essendon should be thinking long and hard about it. They get a player looking to establish themselves in their own right as a former number 4 pick. His head is screwed on right, he would be one of the quickest and fittest at the club and is a few years advanced of the group Knights is putting together.

Win/Win or nil all draw.

Either way, it would ge a good trade.

Looking at those stats, why would we want Lovett?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Looking at those stats, why would we want Lovett?

Not a bad replacement for Ray and/or Eagleton.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

25 and 10 months to be more accurate.

That's strange, I thought he was younger. I wonder if that has any effect on whether or not we chase him, more so in regards to his behavioral problems. At 26, it's unlikely we'll be able to 'turn him around' so to speak.

Looking at those stats, why would we want Lovett?

He's a little inconsistent, but it's his ability to break the lines with pace & use his good foot skills that are of attraction. Ray finds enough of the ball, he just doesn't do enough with it. Lovett would be a better fit for our side.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

In regards to a KP forward, the Bulldogs looked at Damon White last year, at 25 is he still an option worth pursuing? He's 25, 193cm and 95kg. I believe he comes out of contract this year as well.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

In regards to a KP forward, the Bulldogs looked at Damon White last year, at 25 is he still an option worth pursuing? He's 25, 193cm and 95kg. I believe he comes out of contract this year as well.

Degenerative knees.

He failed the bulldogs medical i believe.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

In regards to a KP forward, the Bulldogs looked at Damon White last year, at 25 is he still an option worth pursuing? He's 25, 193cm and 95kg. I believe he comes out of contract this year as well.

I get scared when names like Damon White get thrown up. They only do so because they have a bit of height about them, not because they are good players.

I want decent height, not average height.

You are right about us enquiring after him last season. Port wanted too much. They would obviously want less but I'd still not bother.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

I get scared when names like Damon White get thrown up. They only do so because they have a bit of height about them, not because they are good players.

I want decent height, not average height.

You are right about us enquiring after him last season. Port wanted too much. They would obviously want less but I'd still not bother.

I also get nervous. As these players haven't done a lot as a third string forwards, and yet we expect them to come top us and get the #1 defender and we expect more.

I.e. Boyle. Hasn't done a heap on the 5th defender, yet some think he will do something on the 1st defender.

Sorry, we either need a proven performer (i.e. Hall) or a kid who hasn't had opportunities (i.e. Thorpe).

White, Boyle and co. is a waste and i would prefer punt on a kid like Boumann or Jesse Wells than payout for them.