Tom Barrass

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Tom Barrass

I don't get how this is a brilliant strategy. They have made commitments and not honoured them - there 100% should be a penalty. How this is being reflected in the media as WCE's fault whereas Richmond are well within their rights to expect 6+23 for Rioli, 10+11 for Bolton and 15 for Baker has me absolutely stuffed.

What is happening right now - is everyone who reports on the AFL a moron?

I think they are following an algo/have a set plan.

Back in the big Melbourne club over small Melbourne or interstate club.

No one goes for the Eagles here, no point really backing them. Well, other than the truth, fairness, integrity but lolz at that.

Melbourne is a funny with demogs. No one club has majority of audience, so AFL media generally go with negativity as the majority are okay with opposition clubs getting shit. Clubs like ours and the other 3 smaller Melbourne clubs, we'd make up what? 3-4% of the audience. Such an easy one to smash.

Hawks are big and have plenty of mates. Who cares what's right or wrong, most of SEN's audience rather them be pro Hawks than pro Eagles. Same as Tigers and Freo. Same as Cats and us. Not trying to be emotional here, just clear that the truth, fairness and integrity all don't really matter.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Tom Barrass

Hun:

The bomb was put under Barrass on Friday, when the pick 14 that all expected to be part of Hawthorn?s trade for him ended up at Carlton.

Now the Hawks only really have future selections to use, given they hold 33, 71 and 77 in this draft.

If West Coast wanted pick 14 and more, a Hawthorn or Carlton future first in a lesser draft can?t be that appetising.

Fascinating where this one leads, does a different club get involved for the full-back?

[mjp]

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Fascinating where this one leads, does a different club get involved for the full-back?

The players association has power and needs to step in.

Hawthorn - like Brisbane did when they had recruited Dunkley - approached a player who belonged to another club (JD was coming ooc but was NOT ooc when they approached him) and convinced him to request a trade to their club.

They then traded away the key asset they had which could be used to facilitate a trade.

It is crap. It is dishonest. And people (Damien Barrett, Brad Johnson and whatever other muppet who was on Trade Radio on Friday night opened the show with this) credit them for being 'Brilliant' and going 'ALL IN'.

They need to invoke the most famous half-time speech made by a coach ever (and made by a coach of their club): "Pay the Price".

You want the key defender you so desperately need: "Pay the Price". Don't settle for the half-price pair of shoes that don't quite fit (Josh Battle) - if you want Barrass, pay the price.

They don't want to. They should miss out. And the PA should be speaking loudly and proudly about this issue....the problem is that the prez is Dangerfield who plays for a club complicit in this 'tactic'.

If I was a Hawthorn supporter right now I'd be embarrassed with the way the club was conducting itself. And if this doesn't work out (and Barrass stays/goes elsewhere), what do you think 2025 contract targets are going to think...the karma bus is coming.

[mighty_west]

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The players association has power and needs to step in.

Hawthorn - like Brisbane did when they had recruited Dunkley - approached a player who belonged to another club (JD was coming ooc but was NOT ooc when they approached him) and convinced him to request a trade to their club.

They then traded away the key asset they had which could be used to facilitate a trade.

It is crap. It is dishonest. And people (Damien Barrett, Brad Johnson and whatever other muppet who was on Trade Radio on Friday night opened the show with this) credit them for being 'Brilliant' and going 'ALL IN'.

They need to invoke the most famous half-time speech made by a coach ever (and made by a coach of their club): "Pay the Price".

You want the key defender you so desperately need: "Pay the Price". Don't settle for the half-price pair of shoes that don't quite fit (Josh Battle) - if you want Barrass, pay the price.

They don't want to. They should miss out. And the PA should be speaking loudly and proudly about this issue....the problem is that the prez is Dangerfield who plays for a club complicit in this 'tactic'.

If I was a Hawthorn supporter right now I'd be embarrassed with the way the club was conducting itself. And if this doesn't work out (and Barrass stays/goes elsewhere), what do you think 2025 contract targets are going to think...the karma bus is coming.

Yeah i laughed out loud when they were drooling all over the Hawks for being impatient and doing what they wanted, it's typical of the media in Melbourne (i still watch Fox Footy and listen to SEN in Brisbane), it's just pathetic how they mooch up to the "bigger Melbourne clubs".

That's the difference also with most past players and media people, they really have no idea what players are worth, they just like to see the deals being done and clubs doing what they like basically to make things happen.

The "don't settle for the half-price pair of shoes that don't quite fit (Josh Battle)" has been given a gold deluxe juicy contract, i guess most scribes see him as the next Josh Gibson anyway even though he was just a handy half decent backman at the Saints, although originally a forward when first drafted, also the Perryman deal to Pies for what was it, $900,000 per season for 6? I mean, that's Adam Treloar all over again, isn't it? yet nothing from the media scrutinizing the Pies over a decent player but no star, we've seen that movie before, the Pies won the flag after their horrendous clean out of overpaid players, so that makes it ok i guess.

[mjp]

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(i still watch Fox Footy and listen to SEN in Brisbane).

I get suckered into trade radio through my podcast app every year...this year more than ever because the Smith stuff and the commentary around it is really triggering me.

I've really been questioning my Fox Footy watching over the last 12-months...I watch less and less. I can't watch On the Couch anymore, the 'Tackle' is dumb, 360 was a news show but has become the world according to Gerard (who I maintain doesn't actually understand football beyond the tribunal and goal review) and First Crack is OK....

Jack White's new album is truly epic and the lyrics to What's the Rumpus sum it up:
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I've got a feeling that the truth's become opinion these days
That train has left the station but our love will grow
It's floor to ceiling unappealing but who cares what they say
'Cause it doesn’t matter who, it only matters what you know
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Truth has become opinion - as long as that is an opinion held by a peanut like Kane Cornes.

[jeemak]

Re: Tom Barrass

People get telling it like it is and telling as they see it mixed up. It's across all forms of media and is toxic AF.

[azabob]

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Seconded how good Jack Whites new album is.

[mjp]

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Seconded how good Jack Whites new album is.

Yes mate - it is simply an incredible release. He actually has some explaining to do as to what has actually been going on for 20 years...not a single song off - say, Blunderbuss - is good enough to be on this record.

[azabob]

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Yes mate - it is simply an incredible release. He actually has some explaining to do as to what has actually been going on for 20 years...not a single song off - say, Blunderbuss - is good enough to be on this record.

Agree. It came out of nowhere.

Punters who visited his record label shop Third Man Records would get it as a “give away”

Love him or hate him Jack White has always done it his way.

[hujsh]

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So the most important thing I learn from this thread will be I need to listen to a new Jack White Album

[mjp]

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So the most important thing I learn from this thread will be I need to listen to a new Jack White Album

You wont regret it.

Old Scratch Blues is a bit of a slow opener (but good)...from there to the end (with the exception of Bombing Out which I think he wrote as he played) is unreal...

[mighty_west]

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Yes mate - it is simply an incredible release. He actually has some explaining to do as to what has actually been going on for 20 years...not a single song off - say, Blunderbuss - is good enough to be on this record.

I actually really like Blunderbuss (i guess it's all subjective to what we like and think is best), Lazaretto is cool and has cool gimmicks like the angel hologram, the one after that i ended up giving away, nice hip hop inspired grooves but the songs didn't do anything for me, will have to give his newie a spin.

Fox Footy, i also have been watching less and less despite not living in the heart of the AFL anymore but do listen to a lot of SEN and Trade radio.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Tom Barrass

Hawks playing hardball to the end.

Refusing to budge, even though WCE rejected it a few times but maybe saw weakness today: F1 & F2 for Barrass & F3

[1eyedog]

Re: Tom Barrass

Hawks playing hardball to the end.

Refusing to budge, even though WCE rejected it a few times but maybe saw weakness today: F1 & F2 for Barrass & F3

Not ideal for them WC need picks now at the beginning of a rebuild.

Clearly wanted to use that pick 14 this year.

[Axe Man]

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Not ideal for them WC need picks now at the beginning of a rebuild.

Clearly wanted to use that pick 14 this year.

Seems fairly likely they will be chasing Chad Warner hard next year so the future picks suit them.

Pick 14 was going to be used on Baker but the hawks screwed them and forced them to split pick 3 as they had made a commitment to Baker. Wouldn't it be nice if another club cottoned on to this attitude and followed through on their commitment to Baylie Smyff in good faith?