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  • Dancin' Douggy
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 2877

    #31
    Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

    Can we talk about Wallet Leatherneck again?

    I wonder if there's a tiny warm smug glow in Rockets tummy.
    Here he is with Wallets old team.
    Good list. Performing well. Stable Environment.

    While the man who backdoored him in Sydney is literally in football Hell.
    Bad list. Performing badly. Extremely unstable and volatile club and supporters.
    I can see Rodney enjoying a nice Port in a deep leather armchair before an open fire.
    Then shuffling off to bed for a very pleasant and serene nights sleep.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #32
      Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

      Originally posted by Twodogs
      Yep maybe we didnt do everything to the 100% spirit of the law but we werent the bad guys we have been made out to be and Jayde certainly isnt the rosy smelling hard done by type he's making out to be.
      Agreed

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66182

        #33
        Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
        You said by us.
        You still haven't explain how the WB screwed him over.
        Again how different is it from recruiting in the draft?

        If he had of gone to North, who would have screwed who? Given he was finished.
        North dodged a bullet but we screwed him over.
        Either way, we still did the right thing to get him to the Dogs at the time ie not in hindsight.

        We were looking for a tall forward and Rawlings was available. In the previous season, he had played at CHF and was the leading mark in the AFL for the year. I think some people have short memories as they only think about what happened after he came to us. Yes his dodgy knees was a worry, but what else could the club do if he was passed by the medicos.
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        • mighty_west
          Coaching Staff
          • Feb 2008
          • 3415

          #34
          Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

          Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
          Can we talk about Wallet Leatherneck again?

          I wonder if there's a tiny warm smug glow in Rockets tummy.
          Here he is with Wallets old team.
          Good list. Performing well. Stable Environment.

          While the man who backdoored him in Sydney is literally in football Hell.
          Bad list. Performing badly. Extremely unstable and volatile club and supporters.
          I can see Rodney enjoying a nice Port in a deep leather armchair before an open fire.
          Then shuffling off to bed for a very pleasant and serene nights sleep.
          I'm sure Rocket couldn't give a stuff whats going on with Richmond, his ex team mate, why would he feel great about Wallace being sacked? Thay are team mates from way back!

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #35
            Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

            Originally posted by mighty_west
            I'm sure Rocket couldn't give a stuff whats going on with Richmond, his ex team mate, why would he feel great about Wallace being sacked? Thay are team mates from way back!
            Oh! Where to start? Where to start?

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14137

              #36
              Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

              Apart from that there was another coach in between.
              Bring back the biff

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                Originally posted by ledge
                Apart from that there was another coach in between.
                Paul Roos? It wasn't Terry's departure from the Dogs that would cause Rocket angst, it was the nature of Rocket's departure from Sydney (although it had little to do with Terry, his blatant positioning of himself for the job even while Rocket was still there was classic Terry "Look Out For Number One" Wallace).

                Okay, that's just for starters. I'm sure plenty of other posters know the inside goss on the underhanded crap Richmond has tried on the Dogs over the last half decade, so I'll leave it to them.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #38
                  Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                  Whilst I feel sorry for Rawlings, our 'draft tampering' was no different to the tampering that Rawlings was attempting to do to get to North.

                  As has been mentioned, most players don't end up at the club of there choice.
                  At least he got to stay in Melbourne.
                  Imagine if WC had the first pick in the PSD?
                  What would he have done then?

                  As a final point, his efforts (along with Bowden) in the VFL grand final for Werribee (his last game under a Doggies contract??) were probably the most pathetic I've seen by any footballer in a long time.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                    Originally posted by aker39
                    No, there is no rule against it.

                    But I believe that it was against the spirit of the trade/draft.

                    You have your opinion, I have mine.

                    I'll leave it at that.
                    I never said that what happen to Rawlings was fair, its as fair as drafting anyone against their wishes is. Is also in the spirit of trade/draft just as much as Judd getting Carlton, O'Keefe staying at the swans, and the number of other trades that don't eventuate.

                    I simply believe that we the bulldogs did not screw Rawlings.
                    No one is saying Carlton or Port screwed Stevens because he wanted to go to Collingwood.

                    I have no smypathy for Rawlings and don't undertsand why people do.
                    Last edited by LostDoggy; 12-05-2009, 06:58 PM.

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                    • mighty_west
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3415

                      #40
                      Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                      Originally posted by Lantern
                      Oh! Where to start? Where to start?
                      You know something that perhaps the rest of us don't?

                      Spill?

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #41
                        Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                        I never said that what happen to Rawlings was fair, its as fair as drafting anyone against their wishes is. Is also in the spirit of trade/draft just as much as Judd getting Carlton, O'Keefe staying at the swans, and the number of other trades that don't eventuate.

                        I simply believe that we the bulldogs did not screw Rawlings.
                        No one is saying Carlton or Port screwed Stevens because he wanted to go to Collingwood.

                        I have no smypathy for Rawlings and don't undertsand why people do.
                        Agreed. There's no choosing nor screwing in the trade system we have. The fact that Rawlings was, after his brilliant entry, not that flash is not a character flaw nor reason to hate him. But he can't claim he was dudded.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                          Originally posted by bc013
                          Whilst I feel sorry for Rawlings, our 'draft tampering' was no different to the tampering that Rawlings was attempting to do to get to North.

                          As has been mentioned, most players don't end up at the club of there choice.
                          At least he got to stay in Melbourne.
                          Imagine if WC had the first pick in the PSD?
                          What would he have done then?

                          As a final point, his efforts (along with Bowden) in the VFL grand final for Werribee (his last game under a Doggies contract??) were probably the most pathetic I've seen by any footballer in a long time.


                          I think this is an important point - no matter who's "fault" it was that he ended up with us, surely everyone has a responsibility to themselves to take it on the chin, and give it their best shot. I'm sure if we think about it, we could think of a few bulldogs we have delisted or traded away when they didn't want to go. I was staying at the same hotel as the players in WA in 2006 after the Elimination final where we were smashed, and I remember the players were talking about delisting and being traded, and Sam Power was quite upset as there had been rumours about him being let go - however, I think whilst he hasn't set the world on fire at North, he at least looks like he is giving his all. These guys are professionals when all said and done. After all, we paid big bucks, didn't we? I think I remember him in his first game kicking a number of goals and I thought, "hello, maybe this will be good". But I reckon it was pretty much the first and last good game I saw him play. He never looked really interested IMHO
                          Re Wallet - you just gotta believe in "what goes round, comes round, or karma

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #43
                            Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                            Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                            How?

                            You're being as clear as mud!
                            I'm allowed to dislike people without justification.

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7578

                              #44
                              Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                              Originally posted by Dantè Hicks
                              I'm allowed to dislike people without justification.
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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #45
                                Re: Schadenfreude anyone?

                                I would throw a banana at him if I had a chance.

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