Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

[mighty_west]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

You didn't really expect Fantasia to come out and say how bad he was, did you?

No you wouldn't, although i don't think has was as bad as some suggest, he certaintly didn't set the world on fire either, but showed some good signs, i think some people tent to over anylise things just a tad.

[Mofra]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I noticed several times he was on his own and yelling for the pass.

Which is exactly the wrong thing to do - we play a forward structure that relies on movement to bring the ball in. Minson is on record saying he needs to learn to lead better because we don't employ a stay at home forward.

[Mantis]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Which is exactly the wrong thing to do - we play a forward structure that relies on movement to bring the ball in. Minson is on record saying he needs to learn to lead better because we don't employ a stay at home forward.

So your saying that when he is alone he should move around to either:

a/ push closer to the boundary line which makes it a tougher shot on goal if he receives the ball

OR

b/ move closer to the opposition players such that he is longer alone?

I have no problems at all in a playing calling for the ball if he is standing alone inside F50.

[Bornadog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Murphy for Stack.
Welsh for Tiller??

many have said that, but who plays on Tredrea and who plays on Westhoff?

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I noticed several times he was on his own and yelling for the pass. So if he played the same game but kicked say two goals, you would change your opinion?

Seeing nearly every time he went near it he fumbled, if they had passed to him twice and he dropped the mark both times would you still say he played well?

Same, same. I don't count on whatifs.

PS. I don't remember a single time where I thought to myself, "Damn, he should have given that off to Stack"

[Dazza]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I thought the most encouraging thing about stacks game on the weekend was his commitment and endeavour to get involved in contests. For a first gamer I thought he did alright without setting the world on fire.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Exactly. It is only very rarely that a first gamer wows people and even then it is usually only one or two things they do eg they may kick a good goal.

I remember playing my first game in the A's for my club, it was a huge step up in terms of speed and physicality and I found it very difficult to get into the game despite playing in the midfield. I didn't even have the same sort of crowd and pressure to contend with.

I like the 20 game rule that has been referenced on here quite a few times. After 20 games they are fair game, criticism can flow like beer at an open bar. But till then we should reserve our judgement somewhat, not much can be taken from a first game.

I like to think we don't really know how good a player will be until the get to atleast 50 games for me. Of course this depends on wether they are good enough to get to that many in the first place.

[comrade]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I like to think we don't really know how good a player will be until the get to atleast 50 games for me. Of course this depends on wether they are good enough to get to that many in the first place.

What the?

[Mofra]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

So your saying that when he is alone he should move around to either:

a/ push closer to the boundary line which makes it a tougher shot on goal if he receives the ball

OR

b/ move closer to the opposition players such that he is longer alone?

I have no problems at all in a playing calling for the ball if he is standing alone inside F50.

I didn't see him alone in the F50 all night I saw him next to an opponent, and we onyl kick to one on ones if there is no other option.
This is what makes Aker such a great assist player - he kicks to make the forward meet the drop of the ball, and a player on the move is a greater chance of meeting the drop of teh ball with a break on an opponent.

In any case when you are being manned up (or the opposition is playing a zone defence) you need to lead & move to attack the ball to provide an option for teammates upfield.

[alwaysadog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

I didn't see him alone in the F50 all night I saw him next to an opponent, and we onyl kick to one on ones if there is no other option.
This is what makes Aker such a great assist player - he kicks to make the forward meet the drop of the ball, and a player on the move is a greater chance of meeting the drop of teh ball with a break on an opponent.

In any case when you are being manned up (or the opposition is playing a zone defence) you need to lead & move to attack the ball to provide an option for teammates upfield.

You must have missed it because I recall at least one occasion when I thought he was loose, will need to see if the tape picks it up, but Aker is particularly good at getting into good positions on his own and being ignored, even by the captain. So its not unknown for this to happen. You're surely not saying that you think it's a team rule to do so.

[alwaysadog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Seeing nearly every time he went near it he fumbled, if they had passed to him twice and he dropped the mark both times would you still say he played well?

Same, same. I don't count on whatifs.

PS. I don't remember a single time where I thought to myself, "Damn, he should have given that off to Stack"

SS I usually like your posts and I enjoy the chance to exchange counter views, but you seem to find it impossible to find one thing that Stack did, other than breathing, that was positive, and you seem in a mood to accuse him of wasting oxygen when he did that. I know your style is to be all one or the other but is it appropriate to deny any positives to a young player? Furthermore it's not like you to not encourage someone, we seem agreed to think, that the coach wants to be part of our future.

[Topdog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

many have said that, but who plays on Tredrea and who plays on Westhoff?

Lake and Hargrave.

[Topdog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Was it Stack who took the mark that injured Delidio?

[Bornadog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Lake and Hargrave.

Westhoff = 199cm, Hargrave = 190cm

I don't think it will work

[Topdog]

Re: Brennan Stack to Debut tonight

Westhoff = 199cm, Hargrave = 190cm

I don't think it will work

Westhoff is a stick figure who is unable to use his height effectively yet. I'd be willing to take the risk. Anyway who is to say that Tiller would be a better matchup for Westhoff? Tiller is what 192-3cm?