Ins and Outs - Second Final

[Topdog]

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If the theme is intensity and getting a bit of grit in the side - its probably worth highlighting the comparison in tackles between the players said to have a good game - and those that have been suggested could be dropped:

Group 1 ---Group 2
Gilbee --- Minson
Boyd --- Welsh
Cross --- Hill
Eagle ---Picken
Aker --- Gia
Higgins --- Hahn

Gr 1 - 6 tackles(total) ---Gr 2 - 23 tackles.

Wow that is disgraceful for a group that contains 2 in and under midfielders and a defender.

[yeah_sampson]

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I figure we only make a change to either facilitate Williams return, or if somebody is injured.

Why do we keep trying to facilitate Williams in the side. He is quick, that's It! It's a little harsh but every time I see him lining up in the side I think "why"!

Very similar to when we used to pick stephen tiller, they are great Players indeed, Great for he VFL, and thats it!!

[soupman]

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Why do we keep trying to facilitate Williams in the side. He is quick, that's It! It's a little harsh but every time I see him lining up in the side I think "why"!

Very similar to when we used to pick stephen tiller, they are great Players indeed, Great for he VFL, and thats it!!

Because like it or not they improve the strucure of our side. Williams coming in means that we have another option for the Browns and Bradshaws, but particularly for the Koschitzke's and Riewoldts. Otherwise we are left playing either Morris or Hargrave on someone too big for them, which makes them less effective. If Williams played last Saturday he could have taken Mooney, Morris could have taken Chapman and Hargrave could have taken someone else. Williams isn't that bad once he gets going, it's usually just his first week back that he struggles in. I want that week to be against Brisbane, otherwise he may not be useful in the finals.

[Bornadog]

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Why do we keep trying to facilitate Williams in the side. He is quick, that's It! It's a little harsh but every time I see him lining up in the side I think "why"!

Very similar to when we used to pick stephen tiller, they are great Players indeed, Great for he VFL, and thats it!!

Perhaps we pick Williams because he has height, (196cm) and athletic ability and we don't have any one else for CHB. Before you say Morris, let me remind you he is only 190cm and has to play on gorilla forwards, which is a mismatch. Also we can use Morris on different type of players making him more effective.

[LostDoggy]

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+1


Then Tim Callan walked in with Everitt. He wasn't talking tactics, match ups, kicks or anything else. He was relaying a story how that quarter he'd belted a bloke, then held him down and ground his face in the mud.

I'm in love! Nah but seriously, awesome. I really want to see him getting games, it's just too bad the spot he's playing for is so competitive.

[Rocket Science]

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While conceding the Lions and Cats are two completely different kettles of fish...should Callan come in, and in light of the lack of 'frontal' pressure applied by our forwards last week AND Harbrow having his ass all but handed to him by Stokes, one wonders if it may culminate in Jarrod finding himself back in the forward-mix at some stage Friday night.

[anfo27]

Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

If the theme is intensity and getting a bit of grit in the side - its probably worth highlighting the comparison in tackles between the players said to have a good game - and those that have been suggested could be dropped:

Group 1 ---Group 2
Gilbee --- Minson
Boyd --- Welsh
Cross --- Hill
Eagle ---Picken
Aker --- Gia
Higgins --- Hahn

Gr 1 - 6 tackles(total) ---Gr 2 - 23 tackles.

Great stat Ozza & that is one of the main reasons we didn't win that game. The crows smacked Essendon but at least the Bombers came out in that 1st quarter & tackled with purpose & intensity. Just can't understand after hearing that national anthem why they wouldn't fire up, after the anthem i wanted to get down there a shirt front someone myself.

[The Pie Man]

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While conceding the Lions and Cats are two completely different kettles of fish...should Callan come in, and in light of the lack of 'frontal' pressure applied by our forwards last week AND Harbrow having his ass all but handed to him by Stokes, one wonders if it may culminate in Jarrod finding himself back in the forward-mix at some stage Friday night.

I imagine they'll want Jarrod to find the pill a bit more than he did last Saturday (think it was 12)

In saying that, attacking back pockets can't be getting 30 touches every week - he's had a great year and will be a great player for us.

[Topdog]

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Correct it was Knights

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,,22577840-19742,00.html

[LostDoggy]

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I was at training on Tuesday and noticed that Williams was with the main group and seemed to train well and complete and compete in most, if not all tasks. Given the selection panels obvious love of the "Tommy Gun" could he be the smoky for a late change?

In: Williams
Out: Hill

Perhaps.............Who knows??????

[Happy Days]

Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

I was at training on Tuesday and noticed that Williams was with the main group and seemed to train well and complete and compete in most, if not all tasks. Given the selection panels obvious love of the "Tommy Gun" could he be the smoky for a late change?

In: Williams
Out: Hill

Perhaps.............Who knows??????

In The Age today it was mentioned that Williams will play at Williamstown.

For mine, I think we bring in Timmy Callan. This will not only allow for Shaggy to take the taller resting ruckman (which will usually be Brennan, who Shaggy is more than capable of shuutting down) and not force him to go to Hooper, which could be a potential mismatch at ground level, but will also, as previously mentioned by another poster, give us security on Brown and Bradshaw by having Timmy drop in front of the packs, as he as shown he can time and time again.

As per who to drop, provided that Murphy gets up this week, I would go with Hill. He has had a great year, but he has tapered off on the back 9, and doesn't offer us as much as a forward that Timmy does as a backman.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Ins and Outs - Second Final

In The Age today it was mentioned that Williams will play at Williamstown.

For mine, I think we bring in Timmy Callan. This will not only allow for Shaggy to take the taller resting ruckman (which will usually be Brennan, who Shaggy is more than capable of shuutting down) and not force him to go to Hooper, which could be a potential mismatch at ground level, but will also, as previously mentioned by another poster, give us security on Brown and Bradshaw by having Timmy drop in front of the packs, as he as shown he can time and time again.

As per who to drop, provided that Murphy gets up this week, I would go with Hill. He has had a great year, but he has tapered off on the back 9, and doesn't offer us as much as a forward that Timmy does as a backman.

Spot on the money Happy Days!

WESTERN BULLDOGS v BRISBANE LIONS
Western Bulldogs
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Ryan Hargrave
HB: Liam Picken, Dale Morris, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Shaun Higgins, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Brad Johnson, Mitch Hahn, Robert Murphy
F: Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
I/C: Tim Callan, Nathan Eagleton, Daniel Giansiracusa, Callan Ward
Emg: Dylan Addison, Andrejs Everitt, Josh Hill
In: Callan
Out: Josh Hill

Brisbane Lions
B: Ashley McGrath, Daniel Merrett, James Hawksley
HB: Joel Patfull, Josh Drummond, Jed Adcock
C: Jared Brennan, Simon Black, Daniel Rich
HF: Michael Rischitelli, Jonathan Brown, James Polkinghorne
F: Sam Sheldon, Daniel Bradshaw, Tim Notting
Foll: Mitch Clark, Luke Power, Justin Sherman
I/C: Rhan Hooper, Matt Austin, Travis Johnstone, Jack Redden
Emg: Bradd Dalziell, Joel Macdonald, Cheynee Stiller

In: Drummond, Adcock, Notting
Out: Jason Roe, Cheynee Stiller, Scott Harding (foot)