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Fev = twice as many goals per year and will kick 100 goals playing for us.
Fev = Dickhead, but then again Hall is as well
Therefore, I would trade for Fev. What would I give up, 1st round, plus GOK plus one other player that wants out (if there is one). However, I would only pay $600k and balance to be paid by Carlton.
Problem is Salary cap, so Eagleton out, and depending on who else wants out.
We can afford $300k for Hall, so only looking for another say $300k. Between Eagle and GOK, they must make up $300k.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
It comes down to which Key Forward would the dogs rather have?
One has a problem with onfield discipline - but his sheer size and intimidation is worth a couple of goals.
The other has both onfield (bad body language, has a sook when he doesn't get the ball) AND off field problems - on the other hand he can kick a 100 goals with a midfield like ours.
I'm not really a Fev fan, but if recruiting him gets the dogs a Premiership.......
Have to look at either Grant, Everitt or maybe Sam Reid (no not ALL of them) to package with a high end draft pick and perhaps an established player - maybe Hahn.
I don't think we have a chance of getting Fev. Once we get Hall I'd rather throw the kitchen sink at someone like Hurley or Ryder. Obviously Hurley's unlikely as he's set to wear the famous 18, but then look at Everitt. Paddy Ryder would be awesome at the Bulldogs. He'd cost a bit though...
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Oh god no he will be disruptive and no good for our younger players still BBBBB for me thanks and would like to see how the Saints,Hawks or Pies would fit him in there cap bullshit exercise from a bullshit club !!!
It comes down to which Key Forward would the dogs rather have?
One has a problem with onfield discipline - but his sheer size and intimidation is worth a couple of goals.
The other has both onfield (bad body language, has a sook when he doesn't get the ball) AND off field problems - on the other hand he can kick a 100 goals with a midfield like ours.
I'm not really a Fev fan, but if recruiting him gets the dogs a Premiership.......
Either am I but you must admit, the number of goals the guy kicks is huge. 89 this year, 99 last.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
Fev = twice as many goals per year and will kick 100 goals playing for us.
Fev = Dickhead, but then again Hall is as well
Therefore, I would trade for Fev. What would I give up, 1st round, plus GOK plus one other player that wants out (if there is one). However, I would only pay $600k and balance to be paid by Carlton.
Problem is Salary cap, so Eagleton out, and depending on who else wants out.
We can afford $300k for Hall, so only looking for another say $300k. Between Eagle and GOK, they must make up $300k.
Fev's not just a dickhead, he's THE biggest dickhead in the AFL, and if you believe the rumours a terrible influence on the younger players and a disruptive force throughout the playing group.
He's had multiple opportunities to fix his ways but is too stupid and arrogant to have done anything to rehabilitate himself.
That's enough of a deal break, IMO.
Barry isn't a dickhead. He's clearly a hot head and has the potential to be a loose cannon on field, but he's highly respected by those that have played with him.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
Keep Lake & Everitt + get Bazza, leaving Carlton with absolutely nothing.
I don't like the on field persona that Fevola puts across, he doesn't seem to be a team man. Like some have said above, he has a sook if something isn't going his way & sometimes goes back to being lazy (e.g. not chasing).
Bazza might have on field problems (we don't know he may have changed), but Fevola to me is an all round goose. He would create so many off field problems, like public boozing, indecent acts in public & there could always be violence in a nightclub, given his past record.
I might be wrong, but most of the stuff with Bazza is on field.
What I learnt from listening about this on SEN is 'Carlton had the 3 best midfielders in the comp the season just past' and 'Collingwood only failed in the finals cos they don't have a good key forward'
I'd say there is a better than 50% chance Fev will still be at Carlton next year.
Fev's not just a dickhead, he's THE biggest dickhead in the AFL, and if you believe the rumours a terrible influence on the younger players and a disruptive force throughout the playing group.
He's had multiple opportunities to fix his ways but is too stupid and arrogant to have done anything to rehabilitate himself.
That's enough of a deal break, IMO.
Barry isn't a dickhead. He's clearly a hot head and has the potential to be a loose cannon on field, but he's highly respected by those that have played with him.
Fevola is by far a bigger idiot than Hall will ever be. As some have mentioned, Hall's only got temper issues. Off the field, he's completely different and is well liked by all that meet him. It's an absolute no contest in this regard. Hall > Fevola.
Ability on the field? Obviously Fevola by a mile. 89 & 99 goals in the last two seasons is an incredible effort. There's no doubting he's a freak and perhaps the best true FF in the game. Hall is quality but there's no guarantee he'll play more than a single game.
To break it down;
* Both are a risk to take on.
* Hall > Fev off the field.
* Fev > Hall on the field.
* Hall will cost significantly less in terms of $.
* Hall will come much cheaper.
As good as Fevola is, he's not worth selling the future of your club (First Round Pick + Quality Player(s) AND taking on the risk that he a) won't play up again & more importantly b) have a bad influence on the younger players/club/sponsors.
The idea of Fevola booting 90-100 goals for The Dogs may be nice, but Hall is more then adequate considering the output/risks of the two.
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