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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Becmatty, we cannot expect to play in the last day in September if players cannot at least break even against thier opponents (especially against the better sides). This is why Eagleton & Hahn have been in the spotlght.
I have seen it all to often when the MC gives games to senior players based on what they have produced over their careers rather than recent form. We do not want another wasted year without success.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
I concede that we're not seeing as many of the classic Mitch triple efforts, and that he is indeed kicking a few less goals, but I think this is mostly to do with Barry's inclusion into the side, his hard leading into space playing right out of the hands of Mitch's pressure. As a result, Mitch has adopted a different game style, picking up more possies around the ground and spending less time in the forward line.
I'm not saying he's putting in wonderful performances, he never has, but he is consistently doing his bit for the team, and so there should be a number of players ahead of him in the firing line on the basis that they aren't doing just that. Hill, Stack, Eagleton, Wood and Picken are all dropped before Hahn imo.'And the Western suburbs erupt!'Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Picken? Wow. If he doesn't play, who plays the run-with role?
Setting that aside for a moment, my question with Mitch is that - as you explained - with the inclusion of Hall, I don't understand what his role is anymore. If it is as a flanker playing 'high' then someone like Ward would be better at that. It surely isn't to provide run from the backline (Lake, Gilbee, Hargrave, Harbrow, Wood even) or be a lock down defender (Morris)...personally I think he would be a better bet at chb than Williams but I think everyone knows I dont care about height.
To me, with Hall in the side I don't know what role Mitch is playing. He doesn't win enough possession to be a high hf or mid, he can't kick it well enough to be a running defender...so this means either he is a forward line 'pressure' player (is he quick enough) who gets about 30-40% game-time or he plays as a tall down back.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
If we are lacking creative run off the backline, I certainly wouldn't want to drop Wood. He's been good in generating run off the backlinem and delivering long. I'd love to see a stat on average metres gained per possession, he'd have to be doing well.Western Bulldogs: 2016 PremiersComment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
I agree Mofra - Hargrave and Wood both need to play...and double that sentiment if the whole 'Harbrow as a midfielder' experiment continues.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Do you think it should/ will?
Last week was helped out by the fact that WC don't play a small/ nimble forward, but in 3 of our next 4 games we face Hawthorn (Rioli or Hooper), Carlton (Betts) & Fremantle (Ballantyne) so would it be correct to assume that Jarrod will head back to a BP? Or do we play Wood, Picken or Hargrave as the small defender to allow this experiment to continue?Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Against Hawthorn I'm not sure who Picken goes to in the middle - Bateman's running power worries me but I'd rather go head to head. Picken to Rioli next game for me, which free's up the Brow.
For Carlton we'll need Harbrow in the backline & perhaps Picken & Shaggy too, given their small forwards can be dangerous and the quick running sides (a la Essendon) who roll the dice tend to hurt us this year.
Against Freo, mjp would know their set up far better than I would but I'd guess Picken could do a number on Hill with Harbrow on Ballantyne.
Does Wood have the agility to play on opposition crumbers? I think he'd be better off against mid-sized players, given his leap and ability overhead for his size.Western Bulldogs: 2016 PremiersComment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
The positional setup was bizarre against West Coast so it is hard to read anything into that game. I am actually amazed there has not been much debate about that on here but a 10 goal win generally satisfies the masses.
With Harbrow I am happy for it to continue because our lack of leg-speed through the middle of the ground IS a problem. I am also happy for Hargrave to take the opposition smalls because I believe that is when he has played his best footy - we just need to forget he is 192cm tall (or whatever he is) because he has been a far more effective match-up against smalls than talls.What should I tell her? She's going to ask.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Agree.
I was pretty puzzled to see Morris on Kennedy, Picken on Lecras and Lake & Harbrow forward were strange calls. I did read that Lake was doubtful pre-game due to a hip complaint so maybe this was the reason... Not sure?
As you say a good win covers over these match-ups which had the possibility to backfire.
Agree with all that. Not sure if Hargrave still has the agility he once had so perhaps he can't pick up the really nimble guys, but he does play like a 6 footer.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Williams is living off that game in Tasmania where he seemed to do a good job on Buddy, but in reality, Brain Lake is our best option. Eade has tried Morris and he doesn't have the height or body strength, but Lake out mark's Buddy every time.Everyone is on about what everyone is always on about. It seems that everyone knows the answer to the teams woes, everyone that is except the MC. In fact it is always the MC that is the problem for not playing that one player currently at Willy who would make all the difference. Earlier in the year it was Moles, then he fell out of favour. Now it is Everitt and when he gets a game and there is still a problem, the calls will be for Reid or Roughead or .....
And why is it Hahn who is in the gun sights? Well everyone has decided that Everitt is no good as a backman, so he must be a forward and a tall one at that. So whose place can he take other than Hahn's?
I wish Everitt all the best and hope he becomes a champion, but I am getting sick of the "he is the type of player who will player better in the AFL than in the VFL" calls. We have been lacking creative run off the backline and midfield grunt. I don't really see how he would give us either of these. I hope he can force his way in and I have no doubt he could become an important player next year following a number of retirements, but I am quite comfortable with him in the twos at the moment.
Ins: Ward, Williams, Higgins
Outs:Stack, Hill, Hargrave/Wood
I think we need Williams to run up the field with Buddy and I think Mitch is still needed up forward. Hargrave and Wood both deserve to retain their spots but I don't see any option other than leaving one of them out.
We don't need Williams in the side as long as we have Morris and Lake. I'd prefer we stick with what is working at the moment compared to what wasn't earlier in the year.
We need Wood, Harbrow, Gilbee and Murphy providing that run from the back.
We don't need guys like Williams, Addison who provide nothing but average defensive options.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Stack has had a good run and not improved. Hill doesn't do enough and isn't the player he used to be right now.
I'd take out Stack and Hill and bring back Higgins and Ward.
Higgins can play more forward rather than in the middle, and with the versatility that these players bring Eade can make a few changes like he has in recent weeks, ie Hahn/Lake forward or back, Harbrow into the middle or forward, etc.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
What, on the basis of playing the worst two sides in the competition?
Williams is central to the success of the defence and provides a third tall option when required. Once again last wek we flirted with Gilbee playing on a genuine tall. It might work against the Eagles but it won't work against good sides.Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
Although Williams is important to how we structure up our defense I still don't see him as 'central' to the success of our defense. He could be but to this point his importance is still largely built off promise. Sure he's put in some pass marks but would Tom have ever been close to being nominated as one of our best in any of his games with us or has he ever been given a legitimate vote on Marmo other than 'that' Hawthorn game ?Comment
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Re: Round 14 - WOOF Selection Table
In the risk of getting my head bitten off I rekon the young Jarryd Grant would do better in the backline than Williams, he is faster more agile and his defensive side seems a lot more urgent than Tom.
Whether he can read the play or has the body strength is another question.
In saying that I surely prefer him in the forward line but an option maybe when match up is going wrong for Tom?Bring back the biffComment
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