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  • Jasper
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2009
    • 1263

    Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

    I know there is another thread on the footy show...but

    The decision by the Western Bulldogs to appear with Jason Akermanis on the footy show and not realise they would be put in a position of conducting a humiliating (for club and player) performance management session in public on national television was a massive error.

    That Rose freely admitted his responsibility for PR shows he has nearly as much lack of insight about the media and performance management as Jason. Extremely disappointing that the club allowed itself to be put in the position of having Jason question them. They should have made Jason's exitfrom the set a condition of interview. The fact that the more media savvy and friendly Smorgan was not in attendance was another error. I can't believe the club could have made such an error. Really disappointing.
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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11244

    #2
    Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

    Making Rose do it was incredibly stupid.

    Smorgan or Fantasia should of been the ones out there, but as you said - they shouldn't of done a live interview with Aker, Sam etc. all in attendance.

    I'm amazed.
    W00F!

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18027

      #3
      Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

      Originally posted by Kelvinator
      I know there is another thread on the footy show...but

      The decision by the Western Bulldogs to appear with Jason Akermanis on the footy show and not realise they would be put in a position of conducting a humiliating (for club and player) performance management session in public on national television was a massive error.

      That Rose freely admitted his responsibility for PR shows he has nearly as much lack of insight about the media and performance management as Jason. Extremely disappointing that the club allowed itself to be put in the position of having Jason question them. They should have made Jason's exitfrom the set a condition of interview. The fact that the more media savvy and friendly Smorgan was not in attendance was another error. I can't believe the club could have made such an error. Really disappointing.
      Tend to agree. When Rose had to face Jason and go on the defence, he was put in a powerless situation.

      He should have just referred back to the press conference, and repeated that the decision was made for the good of the Club and stonewalled. It would have been boring TV but much more effective.

      Instead, he kept repeating that trust broke down and Jason kept needling him for proof. When Rose wouldn't get in to a tit for tat, the crowd got offside.

      We shouldn't have fanned the fire, IMO.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

        Our club should be ashamed and embarassed. We are sending a guy who wasn't even at the meeting and is involved in such things as club finances. Fantasia, Eade or Smorgon should've gone on if anyone. In fact, the club needed to keep low key here and not send anyone on.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66687

          #5
          Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

          I disagree, I think Rose handled it well, however, Aker should not have been allowed to be on Camera or question Rose at all.
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #6
            Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I disagree, I think Rose handled it well, however, Aker should not have been allowed to be on Camera or question Rose at all.
            I thought it was a PR disaster.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

              Originally posted by Kelvinator
              I know there is another thread on the footy show...but

              The decision by the Western Bulldogs to appear with Jason Akermanis on the footy show and not realise they would be put in a position of conducting a humiliating (for club and player) performance management session in public on national television was a massive error.

              That Rose freely admitted his responsibility for PR shows he has nearly as much lack of insight about the media and performance management as Jason. Extremely disappointing that the club allowed itself to be put in the position of having Jason question them. They should have made Jason's exitfrom the set a condition of interview. The fact that the more media savvy and friendly Smorgan was not in attendance was another error. I can't believe the club could have made such an error. Really disappointing.
              Totally agree, the club really got this one wrong.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44622

                #8
                Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I disagree, I think Rose handled it well, however, Aker should not have been allowed to be on Camera or question Rose at all.
                We simply got the order wrong.
                Rose should have come out first and put forward the club positions. The grilling for Lyon and co wouldn't have been an issue. Aker could have then come out and had extra questions to answer.
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                • Before I Die
                  Senior Player
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1031

                  #9
                  Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                  I missed Aker speaking, but I saw Rose. I thought Rose did very well. The club had to be represented or it looks like we have something to hide. Rose was an excellent choice because he clearly represents the club but is also once removed from football operations. His position was absolutely clear, Aker has lost the trust of the club. Aker at times looked lost and confused. It was a bit sad because he clearly has no ability to reflect on his own behaviour and absolutely no idea of the concept of "we".
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                    After all this, does anyone think anyone's head will be on the chopping block?

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                    • cinder
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 956

                      #11
                      Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                      Agree we had to send someone in but also agree it didn't go to plan. Aker made Rose look like an imbecile. And Rose just kept repeating himself in regards to the trust thing, just sounded like a rehearsed speel. This whole thing has really reflected badly on the club. I just pray to god things don't start falling apart on the field. If so, we're toast

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                      • Jasper
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1263

                        #12
                        Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                        Originally posted by Before I Die
                        Aker at times looked lost and confused. It was a bit sad because he clearly has no ability to reflect on his own behaviour and absolutely no idea of the concept of "we".
                        The club did not have to publicly participate in Jason being hoisted on his own pittard. Jason's lack of self insight is there for all to see, it is sad, for the club to be there and participate in his humiliation was a farcical situation that as others have pointed could easily have been avoided. And the club still could have put its position forward via a pre-recorded interview or at least ensuring they didn't encounter Jason on set.

                        I am still shaking my head at this lapse.
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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14303

                          #13
                          Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                          It onl;y became "we" when he was choosing a winner, did notice he kept calling the blokes he played with his team mates, pretty confusing when you consider they were the ones who got rid of him due to his lack of TEAM.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15444

                            #14
                            Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                            Originally posted by B-RadBulldog
                            After all this, does anyone think anyone's head will be on the chopping block?
                            Like who?

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #15
                              Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

                              Originally posted by Before I Die
                              I missed Aker speaking, but I saw Rose. I thought Rose did very well. The club had to be represented or it looks like we have something to hide. Rose was an excellent choice because he clearly represents the club but is also once removed from football operations. His position was absolutely clear, Aker has lost the trust of the club. Aker at times looked lost and confused. It was a bit sad because he clearly has no ability to reflect on his own behaviour and absolutely no idea of the concept of "we".
                              But surely the point of having him there would be to provide more information, or reasons for the sacking? He simply parrotted the trust stuff from the presser, and in the process showed his best work is done in the office, and that he has little if any idea of what actually happens with the PEOPLE at the club. He's a bean counter. Aker looked lost and confused because he's just lost his job and felt that the reason/s for the sacking were not adequately explained - apart from the airy-fairy trust line which doesn't actually say much.
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