Ayce Cordy?

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

We have been patient with him but I'd have to think it needs to come together for him in 2012 or we just won't have a spot for him. I still don't know how we can best use him.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

We have been patient with him but I'd have to think it needs to come together for him in 2012 or we just won't have a spot for him. I still don't know how we can best use him.

Kelvin Templeton Mk II. Stick him in the square.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

We have been patient with him but I'd have to think it needs to come together for him in 2012 or we just won't have a spot for him. I still don't know how we can best use him.

Yet another wasted first round pick? And we wonder why we have no quality in the 20-25 bracket of our list?

I did say at the time that a skinny, fragile ruck prospect that is also a middling forward sounded far too much like Kosi for my liking. Funny that the Saints would have taken him in the first round if we didn't.

[Sedat]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Yet another wasted first round pick? And we wonder why we have no quality in the 20-25 bracket of our list?

When he nominated for the draft he spent most of that year out injured and was less than 80kgs when drafted, so he was going to have no impact in year 1 in any event. I don't know why the club didn't orchestrate a scenario whereby Ayce didn't nominate in 2008, spend the next year at Wlliamstown as a non-Bulldog listed player, and then nominate for the following year. That way instead of using a top 15 selection in a hot draft, we would have used maybe a 3rd or 4th round selection the following season to secure him.

His 2012 is make or break for him IMO. He's been on the list for 3 years with virtually no impact and little at Willy level. He needs to have a massive pre-season and get himself as fit as he's ever been and command a place in our senior line-up as a ruckman/forward.

[Mitcha]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I don't know why the club didn't orchestrate a scenario whereby Ayce didn't nominate in 2008, spend the next year at Wlliamstown as a non-Bulldog listed player, and then nominate for the following year. That way instead of using a top 15 selection in a hot draft, we would have used maybe a 3rd or 4th round selection the following season to secure him.

From my understanding this was not possible under the father/son scenario.. If father son prospects are not nominated as such in their final year of under 18s they then become just like anyone else (free agent) and available for any club to pick-up.

[stefoid]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

When he nominated for the draft he spent most of that year out injured and was less than 80kgs when drafted, so he was going to have no impact in year 1 in any event. I don't know why the club didn't orchestrate a scenario whereby Ayce didn't nominate in 2008, spend the next year at Wlliamstown as a non-Bulldog listed player, and then nominate for the following year. That way instead of using a top 15 selection in a hot draft, we would have used maybe a 3rd or 4th round selection the following season to secure him.

See, thats clever.

Edit: oh, just read the above post. Yeah, I guess the AFL saw that one coming.

[Maddog37]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

I think as much as we have been patient with Ayce we must continue to be for this year and probably next.

I just hope he remains injury free so we can actually make a judgement on his abilities.

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

From my understanding this was not possible under the father/son scenario.. If father son prospects are not nominated as such in their final year of under 18s they then become just like anyone else (free agent) and available for any club to pick-up.

That's my understanding to. You can't become a father son pick at say the age of 20.

[Missing Dog]

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That's my understanding to. You can't become a father son pick at say the age of 20.

Jacob Brennan (West Coast), was selected under the father son rule at age 20 last year...

[chef]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

From my understanding this was not possible under the father/son scenario.. If father son prospects are not nominated as such in their final year of under 18s they then become just like anyone else (free agent) and available for any club to pick-up.

What about Morris from Richmond?

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

What about Morris from Richmond?

He wasn't taken under the father/son rule. From memory he was picked up during trade week as a deal between Richmond & GWS where they could trade a number of previously nominated players (similar to the deal the year before between GC & Collingwood to secure Andrew Krakouer).

[chef]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

He wasn't taken under the father/son rule. From memory he was picked up during trade week as a deal between Richmond & GWS where they could trade a number of previously nominated players (similar to the deal the year before between GC & Collingwood to secure Andrew Krakouer).

But he was eligible to be a F/S if that deal didn't eventuate.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

don't know why the club didn't orchestrate a scenario whereby Ayce didn't nominate in 2008, spend the next year at Wlliamstown as a non-Bulldog listed player, and then nominate for the following year. That way instead of using a top 15 selection in a hot draft, we would have used maybe a 3rd or 4th round selection the following season to secure him.

Good idea from our side of things but why would Ayce agree to it?

- He would be losing out on a years worth of AFL payments (unless we ochestrated Willi paying him that coin, unrealistic considering he was always going to be 2nds/just filling a spot in VFL seniors type in his first year).

- Security of a two-year contract from the get go.

Also, the issue is whether he was worth the pick anyway. If we thought his value would drop that easily, they go for him as our 1st pick.

Does another club go even close to how loudly we trumphet a potential father/son? Other clubs aren't risking much by bluffing interest to get us to committ to early selections. Another manner in which the club's overall lack of success really lead to a culture of extreme adulation of individuals who represent it.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Good idea from our side of things but why would Ayce agree to it?

- He would be losing out on a years worth of AFL payments (unless we ochestrated Willi paying him that coin, unrealistic considering he was always going to be 2nds/just filling a spot in VFL seniors type in his first year).

- Security of a two-year contract from the get go.

Also, the issue is whether he was worth the pick anyway. If we thought his value would drop that easily, they go for him as our 1st pick.

Does another club go even close to how loudly we trumphet a potential father/son? Other clubs aren't risking much by bluffing interest to get us to committ to early selections. Another manner in which the club's overall lack of success really lead to a culture of extreme adulation of individuals who represent it.

Easy to be retrospective, but that's a bit unfair. read below.
Geelong Falcons regional manager Michael Turner, who has overseen Cordy's rapid rise, yesterday declared: "From what I've seen of Ayce, if he's not a top-five draft pick, I'm a bad judge."
A state basketballer, showing great athleticism and kicking goals at the AIS as a junior, performing well.
There were a number of other clubs circling IIRC.

Also, I don't like the suggestion many make eg: " Ayce needs to pick his position and perform consistently at it' or words to that effect.
How can he choose his own position? That's for the coaching staff to determine.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Ayce Cordy?

Easy to be retrospective, but that's a bit unfair.

'Also, the issue is whether he was worth the pick anyway'

I meant that as a question rather than a statement.

Geelong Falcons regional manager Michael Turner, who has overseen Cordy's rapid rise, yesterday declared: "From what I've seen of Ayce, if he's not a top-five draft pick, I'm a bad judge."

Turner says that about at least 6 Geelong Falcons each year.