The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

    Key player Injuries plain and simple. All resulting from to many games on a carpark. Move to the G or Geelong and we go back to back.

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #32
      Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

      Originally posted by chef
      And really why does Bazza need help, he could take them all by himself.
      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Coon Dog was into it. Seem to remember Adam barging in and throwing some player on his head, then ending up with his head under another blokes crotch in some wierd twister event.
      This post answers both (I think!)

      Originally posted by AndrewP6
      Problem is, if he handled himself the way he probably felt like doing against Norf, he'd never play again. Our blokes should have done more to give him a chop-out (pardon the gratuitous use of your username ) And not the Adam Cooney "jump on his back, hold on tight and hope for the best" chop out either
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #33
        Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
        The one thing stopping us winning the flag? Money. Lack of it.
        Clubs with deep pockets / better stadium arrangements and powerful backing win premierships more often. Footy departments need cash, pure and simple.

        Western growth corridor is swelling, and the dogs day in the sun will come.
        Broadly agree with this -- having said that, Norf won a few back in the day on the oil of a smelly rag and the best CHF who ever played.

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        • Desipura
          WOOF Member
          • Mar 2008
          • 4344

          #34
          Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Coon Dog was into it. Seem to remember Adam barging in and throwing some player on his head, then ending up with his head under another blokes crotch in some wierd twister event.

          North off with the fairies in that game and the results spoke for themselves.
          I was going to say Barry does not strike me (pardon the pun) as someone who would be into fighting.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66857

            #35
            Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

            To win the flag everything must go right for you throughout the year and then the finals, and that means very few injuries. Have a look at the last few premiership winners, virtually no injuries to key players throughout the year. I can't remember one prelim from 1992 to this year where we haven't had a major injury, or suspension to players going into finals. The 1985 prelim we did go in with very few injuries, although I think Rick Kennedy was not fully fit after suffering an injury.
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            • Nuggety Back Pocket
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2064

              #36
              Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

              Originally posted by Mantis
              I don't agree at all DR...

              The game has changed and the payback system that used to be around no longer exists.

              Our hardness isn't holding us back.
              A number of our players lack a strong physical presence. It was most noticeable in season 2010 where if it wasn't for the influences of Hall, Lake, Hudson and Cross in particular we would have struggled to make the top four.

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              • Dazza
                WOOF Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 548

                #37
                Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                If Johnno and Akermanis contributed like they had in 2009 I'd say we would have given the flag a fair shake.

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #38
                  Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                  Pardon my ignorance. What's a chop out? Some kind of wrestling term for fending someone off?
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #39
                    Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                    Originally posted by Lantern
                    Broadly agree with this -- having said that, Norf won a few back in the day on the oil of a smelly rag and the best CHF who ever played.
                    Right. It's possible. It's fun to watch those old Youtube highlights of Carey. kicking goals off one step from 50 out. And in retrospect, probably hung over.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • EasternWest
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10002

                      #40
                      Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Pardon my ignorance. What's a chop out? Some kind of wrestling term for fending someone off?
                      It just means to come into help. Like I'm giving you a chop out with this answer.
                      "It's over. It's all over."

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44731

                        #41
                        Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Pardon my ignorance. What's a chop out? Some kind of wrestling term for fending someone off?


                        I actually think he was using a pun, replying to a poster named chops. Substituting the "cop" in "cop-out" for chop.
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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #42
                          Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          Pardon my ignorance. What's a chop out? Some kind of wrestling term for fending someone off?
                          Originally posted by dfa4pm
                          It just means to come into help. Like I'm giving you a chop out with this answer.
                          Yep, this is it.
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • Maddog37
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3132

                            #43
                            Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                            We need more mongrel at the kennel.

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6881

                              #44
                              Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                              I'm interested in the concept that there was only one thing holding us back from winning the flag.
                              I would have thought in 2010 that at least all of
                              1. Injuries to top 22 players
                              2. Poor performance/injury/dickheadedness by our Johnson/Eagleton/Hahn/Akermanis
                              3. Some players not playing up to the level of previous years / playing selfish football
                              4. Lack of depth on the list

                              would top it in importance.

                              I understand that the OP is about a long term issue within the club but I think it's down the list every year if it's indeed important at all.
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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6881

                                #45
                                Re: The one thing stopping us winning the flag?

                                Originally posted by Maddog37
                                We need more mongrel at the kennel.
                                I don't think Collingwood were characterised by a great deal of mongrel, yet they won the premiership. I would have thought an overall committment to the gameplan and role within that was more instrumental.
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                                Drop that phone
                                Sleep on the floor
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