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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #46
    Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

    Originally posted by mjp
    Agreed, but I can't stand all the criticism of the side when we are playing in the second last week of the year. I remember too well (and it was not that long ago) not even wanting to check the score because I KNEW I would again be disappointed. At least when I read season previews at the moment I see us mentioned as potential premiers, not potential spooners...

    The fall is inevitable? Well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't. If you recruit well, top up when necessary and have good coaching then you absolutely can contend year in, year out. I simply don't subscribe to the idea that you have to bottom out to climb the ladder...but you do have to make tough calls on players who are on the downside of their careers. Has our recruiting and willingness to make 'tough calls' been exemplary? Maybe not and that is my worry - but it is not a worry for 2011.
    Nothing mandates the fall happens, but history shows it does. It becomes harder to recruit and retain your next batch of stars while you're up the top. Obviously with the draft you get latter picks, but drafting is hardly such a precise science that it can't be overcome, the main problem is salary cap and offering opportunities to players who could develop. Young players who show a bit early start to command bigger dollars perhaps before they deserve them, and players who've been on the list for a couple of years expect regular games, warranted or not. Being able to keep your next group together and content is pretty tough.

    I look at Brian Lake, who's probably the key to our team, even as late as the start of 2006 he was still a bit of an unknown quantity, would he have been getting the opportunities in 2008 that he was afforded in 2004/5, probably not, and if he put his hand out for a pay increase when our salary cap was tight would we have considered making him trade bait to create room? Possibly, but we didn't have to because we were down the bottom and to the surprise of many he's developed into the AFL's best defender. Losing one or two players like that can make a massive difference to the overall team.
    [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #47
      Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

      Originally posted by Chops
      I think anyone that comes out with the accepting mediocrity line should pee off back to BF.
      Think they could both play as a kind of marketing ploy. Return of Wallis and Liberatore. Fans go wild!

      Guys, is it really neccessary to say 'go back to bf'.

      Voltaire - I defend your right to say it, even if I think it's bull**** - or something like that.

      Heres to reasoned, logical robust debate that makes this forum one of the best of its kind.
      I've strayed to forums of other clubs and they are lousy, even big clubs.
      Last edited by Ghost Dog; 23-03-2011, 09:17 PM.
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #48
        Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

        Boy this thread has a sheen about. Charlie Sheen, that is. The article was about Libba and Wallis and the possibility of them getting debuts in Rd 1.
        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

          So big announcement by Eade. How many debutants people reckon. I reckon 2-3

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          • AndrewP6
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2009
            • 8142

            #50
            Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

            Originally posted by Danstar
            So big announcement by Eade. How many debutants people reckon. I reckon 2-3
            I'll say Libba, and Shermanator, with DJ as the sub.
            [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              #51
              Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

              Vez, sherm, dj and lib/wallis and a big maybe, Barlow.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #52
                Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                Originally posted by Maddog37
                Vez, sherm, dj and lib/wallis and a big maybe, Barlow.
                Oops, forgot Vez, I'll add him.
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #53
                  Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                  Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                  Think they could both play as a kind of marketing ploy. Return of Wallis and Liberatore. Fans go wild!

                  Guys, is it really neccessary to say 'go back to bf'.

                  Voltaire - I defend your right to say it, even if I think it's bull**** - or something like that.

                  Heres to reasoned, logical robust debate that makes this forum one of the best of its kind.
                  I've strayed to forums of other clubs and they are lousy, even big clubs.
                  “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

                  It's crap of course. Some people are too stupid to be allowed free speech.

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17970

                    #54
                    Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                    Originally posted by Danstar
                    So big announcement by Eade. How many debutants people reckon. I reckon 2-3
                    What's this big announcement talk?
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • AndrewP6
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8142

                      #55
                      Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      What's this big announcement talk?
                      Dogs are touting a big announcement, which is really only the team announcement for Sunday's game. 5pm on the WB website, Eade is going to announce the team apparently.
                      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #56
                        Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

                        It's crap of course. Some people are too stupid to be allowed free speech.
                        Classique ....LOL. And I really DID laugh out loud.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #57
                          Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          What's this big announcement talk?
                          Team for Sunday.

                          But according to Footy show just now, they have stated that Wallis will start on the field and Libba on the extended Interchange? I was thinking the team lists they were putting up were predictions...

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                            TFS named Mitch on the field and said he will play.
                            The team i don't believe is at all offical (had a 9 name bench) but wow

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #59
                              Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                              Originally posted by shifty
                              TFS named Mitch on the field and said he will play.
                              The team i don't believe is at all offical (had a 9 name bench) but wow
                              It's an extended bench, same when teams are announced and Thursdays. Sundays teams always have an extended bench. (Final team list for Sunday games, come out on Friday)

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #60
                                Re: Tom Liberatore and Mitch Wallis push for Dogs' debut

                                Originally posted by Danstar
                                It's an extended bench, same when teams are announced and Thursdays. Sundays teams always have an extended bench. (Final team list for Sunday games, come out on Friday)
                                If that is the case, it is an interesting line-up. Suprised that Jones, Hill and Wallis made the team ahead of a few others because they didnt have a great pre-season.

                                Anyway, the coaches have a far better understanding of what is happening with players and strategies than we do.

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