Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

[Kelso @ Mt Eliza]

Essential Competencies:
Must be able to beat a top 4 team, must be able to develop, foster and improve young talent, must not play favourites, must instil confidence and inspire the group.. and most importantly must be able to counter the press (not the print variety - but the forward zone variety).

Previous applicants need not apply....

Can we start some dialogue on the best new talent available to replace Rocket?
Can think of nothing better or more productive at present - it is good therapy...

Who's the next Chris Scott? Who is the next Damien Hardwick? Do we have a Bulldogs version of the Essendon strategy.. i.e. Senior mentor above a club great?

Any thoughts?

[Greystache]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Why start a thread and not give your opinion?

Who do you think should be the next coach? When should we start interviewing? When do you want Eade to finish? What should our goals be for the rest of the season, next year, and in 3 years time?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I'm not touching this one, although I'm sure Dougie would back Fevola to captain/coach.

[Sedat]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I see no value whatsoever in a) firing Rocket mid season and b) hiring an interim coach that would only be Rocket's least ambitious assistant (no serious prospective senior coach in their right mind would take a job on mid season). I'd much rather Rocket sees through his full term and then we can assess everything post season. Donald McDonald, Mark Riley, Darren Crocker, Jade Rawlings - not exactly an honour roll of the most recent interim coaches. Paul Roos worked well but they fail far more often that not.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

For the life of me I can't work out why we haven't implemented or countered that forward press! What were Rocket and his cohorts doing over the summer months? Not Good Enough
If we're cactus 3/4 in, it will be bye bye Rocket.

[Kelso @ Mt Eliza]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Bulldogs website under coaches states the following for Eade;
Senior Coach - Rodney Eade - 2010 sees Rodney Eade enter his sixth season at the helm of the Western Bulldogs and only the seventh person to both play and coach 250 games.
Has anybody told Rocket he's in 2011? it seem our strategy and our thinking are not the only things stuck in 2010.
We are back where we were on the Rocky Rohde of 2004. It took a re-energised Rocket to help turn us into a formidible attacking unit... however it is clear that we have become too predictable of late, and the message is lost in translation to the players. Rocket has reached his use by date. How can you argue against this.. what is our top 4 performance of the past 4 years - can you tell me?!??
A review of P.Dean, P.Williams, Monty, Maple and German should also be triggered at this time.
This post is an idependant thought is it not? and it comes from a very experienced, passionate and intelligent supporter who travels, who barracks his heart out and will not accept mediocre performances.. and the 56 rear drought to continue to drag along... show some respect bornadog.. and step out of your shell and attack the staus quo

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

i think this thread is a legitimate topic to be discussing the way this season has gone. Refusing to answer is just turning a blind eye and hiding away from the real truth of the situation (something the bulldogs themselves seem to be doing).

There were several aspects of our game of last year that needed fixing.

1. Forward Pressure
2. Beating the forward press
3. Stoppages

NONE have been improved whatsoever and whats worse they have both gotten worse. Our gameplan is severely outdated and all clubs are growing and passing us by.

Eade has done our club proud and has taken us from mediocre pretenders to serious contenders. He has given our club respect and made us a force of the AFL. But his time is up and he has past his use by date. We need a fresh start. A new coach as well as a review of the coaching panel. We need to clear out the deadwood like richmond have done and like collingwood did a few years ago.

There is no way Eade should be sacked. He deserves respect and should see out his contract. We will see what the boys are made of next week but in all reality it doesn't matter. our season is cooked. A new coach should start the 2012 campaign but until then Eade is our man

[Maddog37]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

If we lose by 120 points in the next two games will it still be too early???

I think Sanderson or Neeld would be ideal.

End of year if change has to be made.

The more I think about it I reckon Rocket already knows we have missed the boat and is playing kids accordingly.

[mjp]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I think Sanderson or Neeld would be ideal.

What do you know about them?

[Kelso @ Mt Eliza]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

[QUOTE=Maddog37;216493]I think Sanderson or Neeld would be ideal.

Sanderson or Neeld - now we are humming...

I'm sure there are a raft of options inside the current framework of assistant coaches throughout the league... an immediate scouting process with a coaching steering commitee in place should be the way to go...

Whilst no official replacement will be named until due course.. behind the scenes negotiations should start to take place.. a candidate will emerge i've no doubt.

If there is to be any caretaker implemented/required in the coming weeks for the remainder of the season.. I would suggest Paul Williams - he seems a likely leader of late.

Scott Burns, Leon Cameron, Simon Goodwin, Adam Simpson, Blake Caracella and Peter Sumich as a smokey.

Then there is the alternate tried and true path with Paul Roos.

Either way, any change or suggested change will be a positive one. I am not doubting that Rocket has been tremendous for our club - however it is better to react early in these situations history has shown..

I know it's easy to take a pot from outside and suggest to know 'what is best' or 'who is best' - however it is clear from early on this season - that all is not right - let's not sit on our hands, cover our eyes and hope it turns.. decisive action sounds much more progressive don't you think?!

[The Pie Man]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

If we lose by 120 points in the next two games will it still be too early???

I think Sanderson or Neeld would be ideal.

End of year if change has to be made.

The more I think about it I reckon Rocket already knows we have missed the boat and is playing kids accordingly.

Let's say for argument's sake that this bit is true - wouldn't you then allow Rocket more time to develop a new/turned over/renovated squad? Pretty rare a team full of kids challenges for top 4/flag.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

As Sedat said, you don't sack coaches mid season in a panic.
Take your time and do it right, if you're going to do it at all.

.

[Bornadog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

As Sedat said, you don't sack coaches mid season in a panic.
Take your time and do it right, if you're going to do it at all.

.

Agreed, I would rather go through a proper process. Firstly assess the performance of the coaching panel at the end of the season. Then if you feel you need a change, advertise the role, go through a proper interview process and pick the right candidate.

One of the biggest mistakes Smorgon made was to appoint Rhode without going through a proper process. This was rectified when we chose Rocket. A panel was set up which included Robert Walls and the cluib went through a professional process to choose the right person.

Talking about it now, doesnot help the club, the players or any one.

[Maddog37]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I think he definitely should be one of the people in the mix but the club owes it to itself to canvas all options.

[soupman]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

We need to clear out the deadwood like richmond have done and like collingwood did a few years ago.

What is the deadwood on our list though?

Is it the underperforming/unfit stars in Lake, Hall and Cooney?

Is it the inconsistent yet undoubtably talented developing young players like Grant, Jones and Wood?

Is it the continual scapegots in Stack and Hill?

Is it the over 28's who are quite rightly on the fringe of the 22 now like Gilbee and Hahn.

Is it the handful of players that have attributes we need but are yet to command a spot like Hooper and Djerrkurra?

Where is the deadwood on our list? Every player on our list could conceivably be an AFL standard player next year, with the exception of maybe Hudson and Hallwill be gone next year anyway. Certainly there are players that haven't shown as much as we would like, but does that mean you cut them (Howard, Tutt and Cordy atm)? We don't have deadwood like Tim Fleming on our list, or a Paul Dooley.

Who do you suggest we cut? ATM I am expecting to see Hall, Hahn, Hudson and Gilbee on the retirement list at the end of the year, but I can't think of anybody else who obviously shouldn't be at the club next year.

I think Sanderson or Neeld would be ideal.

Why would these two be ideal? There isn't an ideal replacement coach, because they're all either unproven, failed, or already committed to another club.