Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Eade for mine is still the best person to coach the Doggies. Our situation this season is a combination of things whcih Eade can control and things that Eade can't control. Of the things he has been able to control he is at least breakeven.

Yes he hasn't come up with a game style that copes with the Press, but is it really that easy to change a system without changing the whole team? Some posters here assume that in a matter of one pre-season you can radically alter the way in whcih a team is structured and take players who have no foot speed and implant the genes of a 100m runner. You can't. Hence Eade plays a game plan which suits the type of players we have.

People forget that we lost over 1000 games of experience at the end of last season and have played without a further 500 games of experience for much of this year. No matter how talented the kids are they need the hard bodies and experienced heads around them to guide them. Just look at how long it has taken Carlton's kids to come good. Same with the Dee's.

I really believe that this season is a step back to take a step forward. Getting games into guys like Wood, Stack, Jones, Libba and Wallis as well as cementing roles for guys like HIll, Minson, Ward and Higgins will pay long term dividends. We can sack Eade now and restart and maybe, just maybe we will make the top 4 (though I doubt it). Most likely if we sack Eade now it will be more of the same dribble for the rest of the season as fringe guys start to play for their place on the list.

What Eade does need to do though, and I believe he has started doing this, is assessing who will be at the club at the end of 2011.

Roos' ethic - Plan first, players second. St Kilda has shown that ordinary players like Gwilt, Baker and other 'pawns' can hold together a side with a few stars like Lenny Hayes and Reiwoldt to form a disciplined unit that gets results. It's no accident Lyon worked under Roos.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Roos' ethic - Plan first, players second. St Kilda has shown that ordinary players like Gwilt, Baker and other 'pawns' can hold together a side with a few stars like Lenny Hayes and Reiwoldt to form a disciplined unit that gets results. It's no accident Lyon worked under Roos.

It hasn't quite worked this year for them though has it? Also its not like they have won a flag is it? I'm not saying that Eade is doing everything right, but given the options being bandied around, I'd prefer Eade to most of them.

We have deficiencies yes, but I think that they are more to do with players......senior players rather than the game plan. Guys like Gilbee have gone down hill rapidly. The game has gone past Cross and whilst he puts in 100% effort every week, poor disposal, just kill us. Cooney has been a huge disappointment this season and in Griffin and Higgins wonder whether we will ever see them live up to their high draft pick status.......

Most of all though this season has shown that whlst we struggled to keep pace with the top 4 competiitors this year, guys like Aker, Johnno, Hahn and The eagle gave us an experienced and hard bodied edge over our opponents outside the top 4. These guys have largely been replaced by kids (Sherman the only exception) - inexperienced kids. It is completely understandable that we are not doing anywhere near as well as we all thought we would. When you throw in the disrupted starts of Lake, Hargrave, Cooney and Higgins its little wonder we are where we are.

[chef]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Leon is the forwardline coach at Hawthorn.

How's there forward line travelling ATM?

[chef]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I actually think it's been a blessing to have him go to the Hawks. I just don't think he has the temperament or the communication skills to add value to a club as a senior assistant coach let alone as a head coach.

Really?, I can't see how.

May I ask how you know this about him.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

It hasn't quite worked this year for them though has it? Also its not like they have won a flag is it?

We have deficiencies yes, but I think that they are more to do with players......senior players rather than the game plan.

They were one bounce of a ball, a point away, from winning a final.
So lets not use their lack of a flag to say they are a rubbish team because clearly, they have been doing something right. More right than us at least.

Players fit the plan, not plan to fit players.

[GVGjr]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Really?, I can't see how.

May I ask how you know this about him.

Some functions I went to last year plus some talks to people connected at the club.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I like the saints comparisons. They didn't win the premiership either which is the same goal as ours and are traveling as well as us ATM. If you want talk about ifs and buts about the saints campaigns then you have to talk about ours as well.

[chef]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Some functions I went to last year plus some talks to people connected at the club.

Fair enough. Nice article about the matter in the Hun.

Where will Leon Cameron coach next year?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/where-will-leon-cameron-coach-next-year/story-fn6cisdj-1226062293822

[Mantis]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

How's there forward line travelling ATM?

No idea... Buddy is playing well, but I wouldn't know about the rest.

I did read early in the season Hawks fans on their BF board questioning Cameron's role, but now that they are winning they probably think he is the best thing since sliced bread.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I'm not so sure about Cameron. I'm of the opinion i would like a coach who has never been in the Bulldogs' system. It would be nice to get a fresh start with a fresh outlook and ideas. Yes he is with Hawthorn now but he was assistant to Eade for 6 years. But if he is a perfect fit for the role, and i trust Smorgon to make the right choice, then why not.

[1eyedog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

It hasn't quite worked this year for them though has it? Also its not like they have won a flag is it? I'm not saying that Eade is doing everything right, but given the options being bandied around, I'd prefer Eade to most of them.We have deficiencies yes, but I think that they are more to do with players......senior players rather than the game plan. Guys like Gilbee have gone down hill rapidly. The game has gone past Cross and whilst he puts in 100% effort every week, poor disposal, just kill us. Cooney has been a huge disappointment this season and in Griffin and Higgins wonder whether we will ever see them live up to their high draft pick status.......

Most of all though this season has shown that whlst we struggled to keep pace with the top 4 competiitors this year, guys like Aker, Johnno, Hahn and The eagle gave us an experienced and hard bodied edge over our opponents outside the top 4. These guys have largely been replaced by kids (Sherman the only exception) - inexperienced kids. It is completely understandable that we are not doing anywhere near as well as we all thought we would. When you throw in the disrupted starts of Lake, Hargrave, Cooney and Higgins its little wonder we are where we are.

Yes that's right I agree

[Mofra]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

He made our mid field one of the best in the league(ans he is now doing the same with Hawthorn). He has been a huge loss IMO.

Jon Ralph certainly gave a positive write up on Cameron.

I would think our recruiting over the past decade made our midfield one of the best in the preceding seasons.

[westdog54]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

2008 PF - opponent Geelong.

2009 PF - opponent St Kilda. Record 22-1.

2010 PF - opponent St Kilda. Grand finalist, one bad bouce from being premiers.

Failed post on so many levels it's laughable.

Eloquently put, but it'll fall on deaf ears I'm afraid.

Unfortunately Mr Cuming has a rule, never let the facts get in the way of a good rant against Rocket.

[ratsmac]

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2008 PF - opponent Geelong. Record 22-1. Structure up to take advantage of Geelong's defenders peeling off. Higgins kicks 1.4 in 1st qtr on Milburn. Dogs dominate general play for most of 2nd half, kicking 0.8, 3 OOF and one from Eagle that doesn't make the distance from 35m dead in front. Oh, and two of our most important line-breakers Cooney and Murphy had fractured kneecaps. Rank outsider was 2 goals down and pressing hard approaching time-on in the last qtr and were finally killed off by wretched non-decision against Rooke on Johnson.

2009 PF - opponent St Kilda. Record 22-1. Some inspired structural match-ups (Murphy on Gilbert, Griffen on Goddard) wreak havoc on a team that conceded an average of 35 inside 50's for the season (Dogs get it inside 50 almost 60 times for the match). Gilbert terrorised and turned into a liability, ditto Goddard. Raph Clarke pulls the only excellent game he's ever had in his career out of his arse. Diving blonde forward and umpire craving the spotlight conspire to shift momentum at a critical stage. Oh, and Reiwoldt's direct opponent had a fractured leg. Saints also kick 6 of 9 goals from frees, some dubious to say the least. Rank outsider who outplayed favourite and was extremely unlucky not to record a famous win.

2010 PF - opponent St Kilda. Grand finalist, one bad bounce from being premiers. Dogs had 9 players requiring surgery the week after, yet conspired to restrict fitter and fresher opponent to 4 goals in the first half, again with excellent structure and tactics. Team shot and blown away after half time to the surprise of nobody.

Failed post on so many levels it's laughable.

Love your work Sedat.

Eade is the best available coach for the bulldogs.

[LostDoggy]

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Love it Sedat.

Hey, some of us called for those exact match-ups here on WOOF (especially the 2009PF Murph on Gilbert, Griff on Goddard ones -- can't be bothered going and pulling up the posts) and sometimes copped howls of derision, but if we're calling Rocket inspired, does that mean some of us are also tactical geniuses? (Or more likely, talk so much crap that sometimes we are right by accident?)