Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

[Dogmatic]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

But what is about about his coaching ability has you 'not ruling him out'?

I'm not qualified to say whether he will be a good coach or not, most people on this forum wouldn't be able to comment on current assistant coaches unless they are in the inner sanctum.

But to answer your question, i obviously like the fact that he is a Bulldog at heart and that he has done an appreticeship at two different clubs.

If you read my posts, I have not called for him to be immediately signed, i'm just pointing out that you can't dismiss somebody because they have not played in a premiership or because they have a relationship with the players....and i used evidence (Paul Roos) to back up my arguement.

[Topdog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

But what is about about his coaching ability has you 'not ruling him out'?

what would anyone really know about any assistant coach in the league though?

[Mofra]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I wouldn't want our coach to be someone who has coached our group before in any capacity.

The group needs to be energised, and as much as I respect Eade's ability, I'm not sure that energy can come from our current list of football staff.
Who of our players has increased their currency this year?

Jones perhaps? Was always going to happen to a young KPP after 4 games last year.
Minson worked super-hard and has helped his cause. Sherman is about as good or slightly better than expectations suggested.
Markovic, Wallis & Libba have - but they had no currency to begin with, being debutants this year.
Grant has gone backwards, a 3 year deal to Djerkurra looks shaky already, Roughy was treading water and is now injured. Take out the Richmond game and Ward is about back to his debut season.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

what would anyone really know about any assistant coach in the league though?

Outsiders (i.e footy public) do have precious little to go off - how they present in the media is about the only thing I can think of, which can only vaguely hint at their philosophies.

[comrade]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

what would anyone really know about any assistant coach in the league though?

I agree, which is why it's odd to start a thread debating the merits of one assistant compared to another.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

When Paul Roos started coaching at Sydney Swans, he did not have a successful background and he already had a relationship with the players..........they achieved ultimate success.

There have been several ex players who have made the transition to coach of the club they played with..

John Worsfold
James Hird - 8 games doesnt make a trend
Dean Laidley
Brett Rattern

[LostDoggy]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I think Chocco Williams will come into contention if we can't get Malthouse

[Mantis]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I think Chocco Williams will come into contention if we can't get Malthouse

Choco Williams is at GWS and is seen as the person most likely to replace Sheedy as head coach after a couple of seasons.

[always right]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I'd like Brereton as coach. He has an amazing football intellect...just ask him.

[1eyedog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I'm a Rocket advocate and think he can adapt. Why he hasn't up until now I don't know which does cause me some concern. If the Football Dept feels they need to change could we hire a rookie coach like Scott West who has been looking after the Melbourne mids? At least he has some exposure, would be a good fit and is cheap. Could he be supported by a more senior assistant who has had AFL coaching experience?

[1eyedog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Bzzz, wrong. Eade Walked mid season.


Knights was sacked at the end of the season, and a thorough process was undertaken to replace him. Sheedy coached for 27 seasons and 600 games for 4 premierships, and survived calls for his sacking several times through that time.



But why does it seem that sacking the coach seems to be the only option offered up here?Why aren't you asking for the playing group to be made accountable as well?



If our season is shot by Round 18 I can see Eade walking of his own accord, the same as how he walked from Sydney... Oh, wait, you forgot about that bit. Why does a coach have to be moved on by Round 18 to ensure he's in place for the trade period? Hird came in well after the end of Essendon's season and was making

I can imagine that this playing group would frustrate him to tears at times and there will come a stage where he'll have had enough.



By your own logic if the club does turn itself around then Eade should be kept. It all seems pretty cut and dry in your world.

To think Eade wasn't pushed is to be naive

[always right]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Got it the first time

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

I'm a Rocket advocate and think he can adapt. Why he hasn't up until now I don't know which does cause me some concern. If the Football Dept feels they need to change could we hire a rookie coach like Scott West who has been looking after the Melbourne mids? At least he has some exposure, would be a good fit and is cheap. Could he be supported by a more senior assistant who has had AFL coaching experience?

The club could do a lot worse than to talk to both West and Cameron, who are both well regarded. Ratten, whom I met last week for the first time has cemented his position at Carlton. A hard nosed player who was taken on trust at Carlton and is now succeeding.
Chris Scott, James Hird and Damien Hardwick have all revitalised their team's fortunes, which rather suggests if you can get the right person,then change is good.
Rodney Eade has served our club well and should be given every possibility to continue, but there would need to be a compelling case and improvement in the second half of the season, for his services to be retained.

[comrade]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

There have been several ex players who have made the transition to coach of the club they played with..

John Worsfold - just squeaked in a flag with the one of the best midfield groups ever, in a very week period. Has also won a spoon.

James Hird – proven nothing

Dean Laidley – won nothing

Brett Rattern – proven nothing

Not a very compelling list.

[Kelso @ Mt Eliza]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

John Worsfold - just squeaked in a flag with the one of the best midfield groups ever, in a very week period. Has also won a spoon.

James Hird – proven nothing

Dean Laidley – won nothing

Brett Rattern – proven nothing

Not a very compelling list.

What is your critique of Rodney Eade comrade.... most would say successful.. and indeed our most successful... does that mean he 'deserves' the remainder of the season to turn our ship... will history prove as harsh on rocket as it currently proves on these three in your eyes?

There seems to be a feeling amongst the posts that is is too early to react, and too harsh on rocket to pull up stumps before season end. I particularly do not agree with those assessments as I have made clear throughout my brief posting history on this site. But I don't want to keep repeating my thoughts.. the fact that I have tried to start this dialogue shows where my views lay.. and they are not with Rodney...
Whilst i'm at it.. I also do not believe that Smorgon's apology is justified yesterday.. it comes across as a sign of weakness in my book... why does it need to be communicated? it will serve as marker for the press and nothing more.. poor leadership in my eyes..maybe I might think differently in a few days.. but at present I would much rather see actions, see some direction, see some heart.. see some counter press intiatives.. and no longer have to hear words and excuses from Rocket and Smorgo.. it is beginning to remind me of Plough's exit at Richmond where he talked about process every 5 minutes.. will be an interesting month ahead... looking forward to it serving as turning point nonetheless...