Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

[The Underdog]

Re: Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

Asked what penalties GWS may incur, Demetriou replied "there's a range of penalties, 'we could say there's a naughty little football team' or we could give them access to all future father son picks for all teams with membership bases lower than 35,000 to help them understand the culture of the AFL or we could pay the fine that we levy for the infraction, because hell, we're paying for the whole shebang anyway" *

*I may have totally made this up, in fact I pretty much definitely did.

[LostDoggy]

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Since the compo pick is heavily weighted to the salary of the poached player, does that mean that on $1m per year for 5 years, that places Ward as a Tier 1 player meaning we get 2 first rounders?
That would certainly ease the pain of losing Ward. Jordan McMahon then becomes the gift that keeps on giving.

FWIW, I wouldn't begrudge Ward if he left. 5 year $5million deal vs a 2 year $700K deal.
With the impact style that Ward plays, a long deal on those dollars would be security impossible to refuse.

[Remi Moses]

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Disagree entirely. There are other aspects in life than money!
Why have other players knocked them back?Yeah we'll get a pick but lose a probable capt. Along the way.We'll have lost two handy footballers along the way, yet some clubs have lost none! Great System

[stefoid]

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The rich clubs can promise to 'look after' their stars outside the salary cap.

[LostDoggy]

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Since the compo pick is heavily weighted to the salary of the poached player, does that mean that on $1m per year for 5 years, that places Ward as a Tier 1 player meaning we get 2 first rounders?
That would certainly ease the pain of losing Ward. Jordan McMahon then becomes the gift that keeps on giving.

Was thinking of that too. It puts him into Ablett compo range which would be more than fair compo for him (though perhaps just makes up for us getting screwed on Harbrow).

Though Ward remains one of my favourtite players and would be very unhappy to see him go.

[Desipura]

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If Ward goes, we replace him by using his compo pick to trade for a homesick Dangerfield.

Like for like.

I like the way you are thinking.....imagine a midfield of Griffen, Cooney & Dangerfield. All 3 can run and carry, would be great to see!

[BulldogBelle]

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The rich clubs can promise to 'look after' their stars outside the salary cap.

They have and always will....

More supporters, more businesses trying to gain attention from their larger supporter base, more influencial members with business contacts etc

Chis Judd's job at Visy as an Environmental Advisor comes to mind

[LostDoggy]

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These stupid ^&%$$%^& expansion clubs. It's been 46 1/2 years since a flag and they are gifting our best up and coming to this new crud up north. Stick your expansion you stupid little boys at AFL house or give us a decent return for giving our future to your pet project. Andrew made a comment re the player payments about looking after the supporters as the number 1 stakeholder. I for 1, am feeling very bl&^(^&(^(^ unlooked after Demetriou you piffle of a man with your piffle of a plan

Interesting calculation. I wish you were right but there's roughly another ten years on top of that.

I'd like Dangermouse in our side if Cal went and Adelaide played ball.

Realistically we need Garlick and Smorgon to spread their networking vines and find contacts within the Bulldog community to engineer third party deals that will entice Judd-like players to come to our club.

It's the only way i can see your lesser clubs with financial clout to keep up with the big boys once free agency comes in.

[comrade]

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Chis Judd's job at Visy as an Environmental Advisor comes to mind

Maybe Dimma can put his money where his mouth is and give Callan a job as a pizza and pasta ambassador?

This whole thing is *!*!*!*!ed up.

[BulldogBelle]

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Maybe Dimma can put his money where his mouth is and give Callan a job as a pizza and pasta ambassador?

This whole thing is *!*!*!*!ed up.

A coffee ambassador?

Barista?

In all seriousness, if we retire Hudson and Hall at the end of the season, and if we traded Gilbee (he isnt offering us anything, and is slowing the progress of younger players like Howard), we will free up some space...

Hargrave hasnt contributed this season due to injury, but I'm certain he can do so next season (on the Veterans lists)

Can we only have 1 player or 2 on the veterans list?

If we got Dangermouse for Ward, plus another first round draft pick and didnt have to pay Callan all that money I wouldnt be lossing sleep...

[LostDoggy]

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Can have two at least on Vets list

[The Underdog]

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A coffee ambassador?

Barista?

In all seriousness, if we retire Hudson and Hall at the end of the season, and if we traded Gilbee (he isnt offering us anything, and is slowing the progress of younger players like Howard), we will free up some space...

Hargrave hasnt contributed this season due to injury, but I'm certain he can do so next season (on the Veterans lists)

Can we only have 1 player or 2 on the veterans list?

If we got Dangermouse for Ward, plus another first round draft pick and didnt have to pay Callan all that money I wouldnt be lossing sleep...

Nobody is trading for Gilbee. Why would you trade for a guy who's on the slide, who's one elite skill is no longer elite and has max. 1-2 years left in the game?
If we really lucked out he'd retire after this season but one way or another we're most likely paying him next year.

I can't even concieve of a way we get near Dangerfield either.

[Bornadog]

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At almost $1 million per year over 5 crazy not to take it.

[1eyedog]

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Bye Bye Callan and I'm glad this was a very tough decision for you. You're more of a man because of it and you never know, we may see you in the red, white and blue again another day.

If we managed to free up some of the cap with the retirements of Hall and Hudson is there any chance of securing Dangerfield?

Are there others we would be prepared to part with who are out of contract at the end of this year? Can we free up the cap through the vets list (i.e. Gilbee, Hargrave, Cross?)

[LostDoggy]

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Is there anywhere available that the public can find out when players contracts are singed until. I'm not talking in depth information. Just contract length.