Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

[Greystache]

Re: Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

Is there anywhere available that the public can find out when players contracts are singed until. I'm not talking in depth information. Just contract length.

There's a work in progress but it's's not finished yet.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

Bye Bye Callan and I'm glad this was a very tough decision for you. You're more of a man because of it and you never know, we may see you in the red, white and blue again another day.

If we managed to free up some of the cap with the retirements of Hall and Hudson is there any chance of securing Dangerfield?

Are there others we would be prepared to part with who are out of contract at the end of this year? Can we free up the cap through the vets list (i.e. Gilbee, Hargrave, Cross?)

How in blazes would we get Dangerfield? Here you go Adelaide we get pick 20 something, give us Dangerfield! Says more about his character if he stays than goes, future leader of an institution that's been around since 1883. Not some unloved soulless franchise with Buckets of AFL Money! He's more of a man if he goes. Give me a spell

[1eyedog]

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How in blazes would we get Dangerfield? Here you go Adelaide we get pick 20 something, give us Dangerfield! Says more about his character if he stays than goes, future leader of an institution that's been around since 1883. Not some unloved soulless franchise with Buckets of AFL Money! He's more of a man if he goes. Give me a spell

I stated he's more of a man because this is obviously a very difficult decision. I doubt whether you have ever been in a like situation. I'd like to see you scrabbling along on all fours over 5 million dollars. Give me a break thinking you are some kind of loyal guardian of the club. He is more of a man because others have taken the carrot without a second thought for the club and because it honestly seems like it is a genuinally a difficult decision (5m vs the club) so good on him for having some loyalty when many others offered far less haven't.

I don't know how we could get Dangerfield but it has been discussed in earlier posts so I am asking you '...'.

Thanks for your insightful reply.

[1eyedog]

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Disagree entirely. There are other aspects in life than money!
Why have other players knocked them back?Yeah we'll get a pick but lose a probable capt. Along the way.We'll have lost two handy footballers along the way, yet some clubs have lost none! Great System

Tell that to Jarrod Harbrow and remember that it is 5m yeah?

He won't be a captain he's a cement head, have you ever spoken to him? We'll lose a very good player instead.

[stefoid]

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How in blazes would we get Dangerfield? Here you go Adelaide we get pick 20 something, give us Dangerfield! Says more about his character if he stays than goes, future leader of an institution that's been around since 1883. Not some unloved soulless franchise with Buckets of AFL Money! He's more of a man if he goes. Give me a spell

Dangerfield is ex-geelong falcon and there is talk of him 'going home' yada yada and he came out and said 'if craig goes, I go' for whatever reason you want to read into that.

So if push came to shove, we would be as well placed as anyone to offer low draft picks given our current dubious position with the saints as lowest ranked victorian teams on the ladder.

Although I guess the go-home factor might be swayed a bit by the millions of dollars factor if GWS entered the bidding for his services.

[LostDoggy]

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Dangerfield is ex-geelong falcon and there is talk of him 'going home' yada yada and he came out and said 'if craig goes, I go' for whatever reason you want to read into that.

So if push came to shove, we would be as well placed as anyone to offer low draft picks given our current dubious position with the saints as lowest ranked victorian teams on the ladder.

Although I guess the go-home factor might be swayed a bit by the millions of dollars factor if GWS entered the bidding for his services.

Yeah, what if GWS signed both Ward AND Dangerfield?

[G-Mo77]

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If the price is going to get to high I really hope Ward just takes the money and runs. I hope it doesn't sound like I want Ward to go because that couldn't be further from the truth but I don't want to see our club overpaying someone and letting the next player forced to move on because he can't afford him. It's an old cliché but the club is bigger than the player. If we get into a bidding war with these plastic clubs it will become very gloomy in the not to distant future.

[LostDoggy]

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How could you knock the money (rumored) back? you would be crazy.

[AndrewP6]

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How could you knock the money (rumored) back? you would be crazy.

As others have noted, money's not everything.

"He who dies with the most toys, still dies"

[LostDoggy]

Re: Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

money can't buy you love.

In China, there is the concept of 'social capital'

Has anyone calculated how much social capital Callan stands to collect if he stays?
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**Off-topic alert:**

All good points GD, and there is certainly the concept of 'social capital' in China, just as it exists all around the world and has done ever since the dawn of society, but the actual concept of non-economic capital (among others, cultural, social, symbolic) was first properly described academically by Bourdieu, a French sociologist, and developed by political scientists in the US and France. The phrase is only around a hundred years old (coined by someone other than Bourdieu)

[ReLoad]

Re: Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

As others have noted, money's not everything.

"He who dies with the most toys, still dies"

"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword" comes to mind too, dunno how that affects Callan given he lives by the Whitten Oval.

[1eyedog]

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As others have noted, money's not everything.

"He who dies with the most toys, still dies"

Yes but it is a long way in front of what comes second.

[AndrewP6]

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Yes but it is a long way in front of what comes second.

Not for all

[LostDoggy]

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I have been told by a preety reliable source that as of a week ago Callan is staying. Going by my source our offer is upwards of 450k and the promise of the captaincy In no more than two years. You can choose to believe me or shoot me down. I for one dont know how we will have the money but one would think a senior player has to be traded. My man is close to the family and did suggest that Callans mum did enjoy the spotlight and the attention of her piece in the paper. (he said that not in a bad way). He is fairly certain nothing has changed but time will tell i spose.

[Bornadog]

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I have been told by a preety reliable source that as of a week ago Callan is staying. Going by my source our offer is upwards of 450k and the promise of the captaincy In no more than two years. You can choose to believe me or shoot me down. I for one dont know how we will have the money but one would think a senior player has to be traded. My man is close to the family and did suggest that Callans mum did enjoy the spotlight and the attention of her piece in the paper. (he said that not in a bad way). He is fairly certain nothing has changed but time will tell i spose.

450k is half of what GWS is offering, but after the tax man takes half its only 225k, so if you look at it that way, he may stay.