Callan Ward - Staying or going?

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  • divvydan
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1502

    Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

    I would say it's about 1% chance Band 1, 55% chance Band 2, 44% chance Band 3. Fact is, Band 1 was really only designed for players like Ablett and maybe a number 1 pick who gets plucked after the 2 years minimum. Ward's a good chance of getting Band 2 but as we've seen last year, the Band 3 criteria is very wide and will encompass a lot of players.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

      How could it possibly not be band 1 ? Age and salary are the criteria by all accounts.
      But wait for it, policy on the run alert from AFL Power BrokersGoal Posts moved no doubt

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

        Ward *!*!*!*! off and spend your money sick of him dragging it out, good to see that some players in AFL have loyalty to their club
        Last edited by GVGjr; 26-08-2011, 05:19 AM. Reason: evading the swear filter

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        • divvydan
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1502

          Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

          Originally posted by Remi Moses
          How could it possibly not be band 1 ? Age and salary are the criteria by all accounts.
          But wait for it, policy on the run alert from AFL Power BrokersGoal Posts moved no doubt
          I suspect the salary would have to be in the $1-$1.2m+ per year to be considered in the top section. Ward is more likely to be on $800-$900k/year. Given that Ward is likely to be on slightly less than Scully and be slightly older, I can't see the AFL giving out two Band 1 compensations and I think Scully is a borderline Band 1. As I sit here typing and thinking, I'm more inclined to think we'll get Band 2 than 3 but as I mentioned, the AFL have shown that the Band 3 is a very wide band and will be the predominate compensation for most players.

          Of course I hope we get Band 1 compensation, I just don't think it's any more than a very small chance.

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          • KT31
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2008
            • 5454

            Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

            I would like to have this poll all over again as I think with Eade's non-renewel and the teams performance since the poll started many votes would change.
            Then again why bother he will be gone by the time we debate it.
            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

              Originally posted by divvydan

              Of course I hope we get Band 1 compensation, I just don't think it's any more than a very small chance.
              Here's the article.

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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                Totally bullshit story from Barrett, purely to get some attention. They had a meeting. Wow. Nothing was decided or revealed. Awesome. Barrett, you suck…

                I believe Callan: I think he hasn't made his mind up yet.

                On the topic of compensation, with Dale Thomas re-signing, Ward would be their major signing. Surely we'd have to get 2 first-rounders.
                Are you joking or did you genuinely miss the point?

                Ward is gone, he's a good as announced it but wants to play the last 2 games.

                Originally posted by SlimPickens
                Just confirms what we already know doesn't it? Its now got to the point that if Cal stays I'll be staggered.
                Exactly. I'd remained hopeful he'll stay, now I'm certain he'll go.

                Damning for the club, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood all managed to keep their young players, twice in two years ours have taken the money.
                [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14624

                  Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  Are you joking or did you genuinely miss the point?

                  Ward is gone, he's a good as announced it but wants to play the last 2 games.



                  Exactly. I'd remained hopeful he'll stay, now I'm certain he'll go.

                  Damning for the club, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood all managed to keep their young players, twice in two years ours have taken the money.
                  I'd prefer he didn't.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44675

                    Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                    Originally posted by chef
                    I'd prefer he didn't.
                    So you demand loyalty from the players but want the club to ignore form and just send him on his way?

                    If so, expect to see more of the same.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • chef
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 14624

                      Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      So you demand loyalty from the players but want the club to ignore form and just send him on his way?


                      If so, expect to see more of the same.
                      Yep, Kruezer and Martin could teach Ward something about loyalty. I have an 8 year old son who has 4 footy jumpers all with 14 on the back, this going to rip his heart(plus mine as well).
                      The curse is dead.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14624

                        Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        So you demand loyalty from the players but want the club to ignore form and just send him on his way?

                        If so, expect to see more of the same.
                        I do. We will never win a flag now(unless we merge or relocate) with free agency coming in.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • BulldogBelle
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5284

                          Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                          We lost McGuiness to Adelaide when they started, Hardie to Brisbane when they started, Harbrow etc.

                          Ward leaving a poorer club like ours is what the AFL intended when they created GWS.

                          It will simply make it harder and harder for us to win a premiership, whilst the power clubs like Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon + West Coast dont loose any players, and continue to gravitate towards the top.

                          The AFL doesnt want us to succeed, we are there to make up the numbers.

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                          • Rocco Jones
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6932

                            Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                            I think a few of our fans have a victim's mentality. Sure it's harder for 'poorer' clubs to retain their players but perhaps it goes deeper than that, into a place that we can actually control, our culture. North are dirt poor too but Swallow and co will be wearing blue and white rather than charcoal.

                            No point whinging about being poor, what can we as a club do to keep players?

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10162

                              Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                              Originally posted by remember54
                              With Cooney's injury Callan is our 2nd best midfielder at present.
                              Did you forget about a bloke called Ryan Griffen? Or perhaps you were alluding to him being the #1. On reflection, I think you were.


                              Seems like Ward is gone. Very sad and disappointing. Has already been a good player for us, and is only likely to improve from this point onwards.

                              As others have mentioned, based on age and the purported salary, we should receive band 1 compensation. At the end of the day, we just have to remember its all a result of trading McMahon to Richmond - and could now net us 2 first rounders.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                                Oh well.

                                Someone will rise over the next couple of seasons (perhaps they have already started too this season) who'll be a next club champ to join the recent ranks of the current 99-02 crop, BJ, Westy, Grant etc.

                                Good luck Cal, hope you break your leg against us next season, but any player (or anyone) would be mad not to take a deal like this.

                                Next.

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