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Someone will rise over the next couple of seasons (perhaps they have already started too this season) who'll be a next club champ to join the recent ranks of the current 99-02 crop, BJ, Westy, Grant etc.
Good luck Cal, hope you break your leg against us next season, but any player (or anyone) would be mad not to take a deal like this.
Next.
About the only decent player they've lost is Gibson.Stkilda haven't lost any players though.
Got a point though Rocco.
Pretty ordinary comments directed towards Callan Ward personally on here.
He's a young bloke offered a huge amount of money to play for a new club and set his whole life up. Its disappointing, really disappointing if he goes - but a few of you need to get a grip.
Footy is his job. He can do the same job elsewhere and be paid twice the money. It would be incredibly hard to say no to that opportunity.
So you demand loyalty from the players but want the club to ignore form and just send him on his way?
If so, expect to see more of the same.
This doesn't make sense. I doubt we'll see more of the same if we stand him down.
Of course we demand loyalty, but once it's gone (from the player end) why should we stick to our end of the bargain and play him for two more games while Wallis is in the stands?
We are out of the finals now and I don't think anyone would agreive us if we stood Ward done for the last two matches. Loyalty has to be a two way street otherwise it is just lunacy.
We have Wally and Libba now, so we have like players and I'm optimistic about Dolly and Schofield. With a fit Lake and semi-fit Cooney I think we'll enter next year in better shape that this year to be honest.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
Pretty ordinary comments directed towards Callan Ward personally on here.
He's a young bloke offered a huge amount of money to play for a new club and set his whole life up. Its disappointing, really disappointing if he goes - but a few of you need to get a grip.
Footy is his job. He can do the same job elsewhere and be paid twice the money. It would be incredibly hard to say no to that opportunity.
So were Swallow, Kreuzer, Martin, Pendlebury, Thomas, etc yet they all stayed. I guess money isn't the only important thing to them, or perhaps they think they can actually make a living for themselves after age 30 and football isn't their only hope in life.
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Pretty ordinary comments directed towards Callan Ward personally on here.
He's a young bloke offered a huge amount of money to play for a new club and set his whole life up. Its disappointing, really disappointing if he goes - but a few of you need to get a grip.
Footy is his job. He can do the same job elsewhere and be paid twice the money. It would be incredibly hard to say no to that opportunity.
Total Rubbish! Kruezer, Thomas, Martin and others say "Hello".
Well if this his "job" can we give him his two weeks notice( happens in most jobs)
And give a young employee his position!
His hardly going to be living on a cardboard box and sleeping under a bridge somewhere if he accepts our offer!
So were Swallow, Kreuzer, Martin, Pendlebury, Thomas, etc yet they all stayed. I guess money isn't the only important thing to them, or perhaps they think they can actually make a living for themselves after age 30 and football isn't their only hope in life.
Or maybe the clubs were proactive with them and got discussions started much earlier in the piece than we did. And maybe, at a minimum, Pendelbury, Thomas and Kreuzer saw a fair bit of success in their immediate futures.
In any case - its Callan's decision and it doesn't make him a horrible person. Nor does it make Gary Ablett one.
I'm fine with you being annoyed at the decision. My comments were directed more so at reading things like 'I hope he breaks his leg'...
His hardly going to be living on a cardboard box and sleeping under a bridge somewhere if he accepts our offer!
+1
He'll still be earning a very decent living for himself if he stays. He is just chasing money and for him to sit silent and not tell the club is a disgrace IMO. I'll be booing him if he goes as he deserves it. Look at the personality of all the players who have left to the GC - money hungry - you can see it in Ablett, Brennan, Brown etc. Rischitelli had a reason as the Lions attempted to trade him and Harbrow went for family. I believe Scully fits the mould of the Abletts and Browns but i didnt think Ward did. Shattering. I hope GWS fails big time. Chances are they will be exactly like Port where the AFL handed them all the players in the world, they one a grand final, and once all those players ended their careers, they are now sinking into extinction. GC and GWS will follow suit. Unfortunately i think we will see a 3-4 year period where every grand final is GC vs GWS. AFL will be in dire straights then!
If he has as good as announced his decision and we have no finals asperations, why should we play him!
It has nothing to do with being spiteful towards Ward, rather that we have a duty to blood the players that will be playing in the red white and blue in the future.
Obiously he wants to do the same thing Harbrow and Ablett did and wait until the day after the season ends, which i can understand but if i did that at my source of employment and strung them along knowing that i had a job elsewhere then they wouldn't be happy when all of a sudden i wasn't there. They would expect that i would have a duty of responsibility to inform them if i intend to seek employment elsewhere.
If Ward wants to go for the money (and i'm not saying that is totally evil) then he needs to have the balls to stand up and say he has made his decision, however hard it is, and he can then have a nice little holiday up north where no one knows who is. Maybe the extra time off will help him deal with the realization that every time he comes home to the inner west of melbourne for the rest of his life he won't be greated as a hero but as a traitor and a villain by anyone who recognizes him (no hard feelings from my end but i can guarantee you he won't get any pats on the back from the common man walking around footscray anytime soon).
We had too many inside mids anyway!, and that whole 1 sock up and 1 down thing was really giving me the irits!........
I will support Ward as long as he is a Dogs player. If he runs out in the colours he deserves our respect.
If he goes, he is the opposition and a player that chose to leave us thus he becomes someone that deserves our wrath. It is us against them and GWS is the perfect manifestation of "them".
It cuts me up as I really took a shine to Callan the first time I saw him play.
Or maybe the clubs were proactive with them and got discussions started much earlier in the piece than we did. And maybe, at a minimum, Pendelbury, Thomas and Kreuzer saw a fair bit of success in their immediate futures.
In any case - its Callan's decision and it doesn't make him a horrible person. Nor does it make Gary Ablett one.
I'm fine with you being annoyed at the decision. My comments were directed more so at reading things like 'I hope he breaks his leg'...
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly Ozza, it's very easy for us who are not faced with the offer open to Callan to denigrate him for taking it. I wonder how many if faced with a similar decision would take the coin.
To actually wish ill upon him for it just seems over the top and the sort of comment I wouldn't expect to read on this site.
Or maybe the clubs were proactive with them and got discussions started much earlier in the piece than we did. And maybe, at a minimum, Pendelbury, Thomas and Kreuzer saw a fair bit of success in their immediate futures.
In any case - its Callan's decision and it doesn't make him a horrible person. Nor does it make Gary Ablett one.
I'm fine with you being annoyed at the decision. My comments were directed more so at reading things like 'I hope he breaks his leg'...
He's been (publicly) umming and ahhing and delaying talks for the whole season, when should we have started discussions, 2009? And no doubt the day after round 24 is finished he'll magically be able to finally decide. Please!
Taking the money doesn't make him a bad person, just a mercenary. Mercenary's can be nice people too, you just have to accept that if anything comes between them and money they'll choose money everytime.
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I will support Ward as long as he is a Dogs player. If he runs out in the colours he deserves our respect.
If he goes, he is the opposition and a player that chose to leave us thus he becomes someone that deserves our wrath. It is us against them and GWS is the perfect manifestation of "them".
It cuts me up as I really took a shine to Callan the first time I saw him play.
Look I'm torn as well, as you from day 1 I knew he was going to be a player I really enjoyed watching play. If we were talking about him leaving for a similar or slightly larger offer then I could perhaps be more scornful of his likely decision to leave, but the magnitude of the difference between what we can reasonably offer him and that which GWS are proposing is just to great.
And yes I know Kruezer, Thomas and Pendlebury have turned down offers of the same or greatervalue , but given it's Collingwood & Carlton involved here, I wonder if there are not other inducements or promises they have provided to bridge the gap.
It's perhaps an indictment on our clubs ability to compete with these clubs in terms of being able to offer ancillary benefits to our guys of the same scope of Club Eddie and also the Cheats.
He's been (publicly) umming and ahhing and delaying talks for the whole season, when should we have started discussions, 2009? And no doubt the day after round 24 is finished he'll magically be able to finally decide. Please!
Taking the money doesn't make him a bad person, just a mercenary. Mercenary's can be nice people too, you just have to accept that if anything comes between them and money they'll choose money everytime.
2010 would have been a start. We knew when his contract was coming up and we knew when the GWS was coming in.
The club didn't talk to Harbrow early enough - and probably didn't start early enough with Ward either.
Whether it would have swayed the decision - that much we'll never know.
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