Callan Ward - Staying or going?

[Remi Moses]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

How can you determine that? He has a once in a lifetime offer that he is weighing up.

So according to you he'd knockback higher offers from the big boys to return to us?
Seriously I've just seen a pig flying through the night sky.

[GVGjr]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

Yes, what does it do for a playing group when a potential capt walks?
Sorry don't feel the love for Ward .

What does it do to the playing group if a team mate is shat on?
You can't expect the type of loyalty from players that you and a few others are insisting on if you then treat players poorly. I just don't see him leaving as a betrayal.

[GVGjr]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

So according to you he'd knockback higher offers from the big boys to return to us?
Seriously I've just seen a pig flying through the night sky.

I can't see how you are reading that into what I said but then again.....
I just don't see what is gained by treating players shabbily.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

If he's prepared to leave his family, friends, the area he grew up in, and the club that gave him his chance in the AFL to go to a soulless entity, based in one of the shittiest areas in Australia, to join a team that will get belted every week, for the money, then he'll sell himself to the highest bidder again next contract. I doubt the environment or his personal feelings toward the the wage provider will be all that high on his list of priorities.

He'd have already set a precedent. I think some here believe in Santa Claus and the tooth Fairy, honestly!

[Remi Moses]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

What does it do to the playing group if a team mate is shat on?
You can't expect the type of loyalty from players that you and a few others are insisting on if you then treat players poorly. I just don't see him leaving as a betrayal.

Who is treating him poorly? The club? the fans? He'd be a chance to be capt of an iconic Football club that's been around since 1883. Alas he'd rather leave for a pot of gold at a soulless, bottomless pit of a shithole.

[GVGjr]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

Who is treating him poorly? The club? the fans?

There are calls that he shouldn't be played if he announces his intention to move to GWS.
Unless his team mates don't want him in the team I'd like to see him play the last game of the season.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

I dont understand why supporters are trying to justify his decision to leave when or if it occurs. Obviously he doesn't believe in the club and its future. Thomas, Pendlebury, Martin etc feel their current clubs can offer them something more than money. If Callan leaves, his opinion of the Western Bulldogs is that they can not. This burns me more than him purely leaving for cash. He is saying i've spent three years in your system, and from what i've seen i dont see anything greater than my base desire to succeed personally.... Lets hope we can prove him wrong.

[comrade]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

What does it do to the playing group if a team mate is shat on?
You can't expect the type of loyalty from players that you and a few others are insisting on if you then treat players poorly. I just don't see him leaving as a betrayal.

He won't be a teammate next year. If I was a player and a bloke was leaving my Club for cash, I'd tell him to piss off.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

There are calls that he shouldn't be played if he announces his intention to move to GWS.
Unless his team mates don't want him in the team I'd like to see him play the last game of the season.

Sorry, but the tail wagging the dog would be more apt!
The coach, and the MC determine who plays not the player.
I'd imagine they'd be looking to next year if Ward said he's going.
Hence he'd be out of the game ala Bock last year

[chef]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

What does it do to the playing group if a team mate is shat on?
You can't expect the type of loyalty from players that you and a few others are insisting on if you then treat players poorly. I just don't see him leaving as a betrayal.

To me W$rd's the one shitting on his team mates(and the club, supporters etc).

So your saying that the player group would be pissed off if we dropped a player who doesn't want to be here next year and beyond, I think your kidding yourself and can think of a dozen other players who would happily take his spot for the last two games.

They didn't give Terry Wallace a send off game so why should they give one to Ward.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

What does it do to the playing group if a team mate is shat on?
You can't expect the type of loyalty from players that you and a few others are insisting on if you then treat players poorly. I just don't see him leaving as a betrayal.

You sound like the bloke who's girlfriend has run off and got married to someone else but don't think poorly of her because if it doesn't work out she might come back.


He's been shagging GC and the only thing left to do now is put the sex tape we did a few years ago on the internet.




I would love our blokes to belt the crap out of him next year but with Cement Head that wouldn't help.

[GVGjr]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

To me W$rd's the one shitting on his team mates(and the club, supporters etc).

So your saying that the player group would be pissed off if we dropped a player who doesn't want to be here next year and beyond, I think your kidding yourself and can think of a dozen other players who would happily take his spot for the last two games.

They didn't give Terry Wallace a send off game so why should they give one to Ward.

You have misread what I have said. Unless the playing group don't want him in the side I just see no reason for others to disrespect him. It's a big decision and I think most players would respect that.

Now regarding Wallace, to me there is no comparison. Wallace left because he didn't think he could take the group further. The playing group was rightly disappointed. I don't see the comparison between Wards once in a lifetime chance and Wallace's departure with another year to run on the contract.

[the banker]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

If he has decided to go it will be for the money. I respect that he has teh right to make that decision, however that disqaulifies him as a bulldog IMO.

While we should respect his right to make the decision, he should respect us and tell us before now. I would release him straight away and play Wallis etc.

If he delays the ...'I am going, it was a very hard decison etc etc..." statement till the end of the year, I will feel cheated by him.

Callan, if you have made your mind up, you should have the balls to tell us what you are doing last week when all the signings were announced.

If you genuinely haven't made your mind up by now, I think you will stay....but please don't work us over

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

We all want loyalty and supporting The Bulldogs is all about loyalty but if free agency comes in it will undermine loyalty further. The Callan Ward scenario will be x 1000.

[SonofScray]

Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

If he stays he gets the respect of the fans for a lifetime and essentially gets a free pass as a Bulldog Legend should his career continue the way it is at the moment.

If he goes, no love from us fans, no recognition as a valuable Bulldog during his career. Just a guy who moved on. I'm quite happy to keep it black and white, its a fickle game in a way.