Callan Ward - Staying or going?

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  • Doc26
    Coaching Staff
    • Sep 2009
    • 3087

    Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

    Originally posted by Greystache
    Or maybe that's just the official party line until he announces the Monday after round 24 he's going. I take more out of him refusing to say what he's decided at round 23 rather than what his family are telling the general public.
    Possibly Stache although somewhat optimistically Dale Thomas did draw his position / negotiations out very deep into the year, as late as last week.

    With the recent changing landscape to our football operations I could understand Cal. wanting to understand what he's playing with.

    For a so called 'cement head' he's shown discipline and a steadfastness in keeping his cards to his chest that in many ways belies his nickname.

    For what it's worth I think he's gone but hanging onto a thread of hope that I might be pleasantly surprised.

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14965

      Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

      Originally posted by Greystache
      Or maybe that's just the official party line until he announces the Monday after round 24 he's going. I take more out of him refusing to say what he's decided at round 23 rather than what his family are telling the general public.
      They have a combined family dinner every Wednesday (blended family) and as of last Wednesday his parents didn't know what his decision was
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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

        Originally posted by Mofra
        They have a combined family dinner every Wednesday (blended family) and as of last Wednesday his parents didn't know what his decision was
        Again or maybe that's the party line.
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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14965

          Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

          Originally posted by Greystache
          Again or maybe that's the party line.
          FFS
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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

            Originally posted by Mofra
            FFS
            Clever answer.

            If I had a dollar for every person who had an inside scoop about what Callan will do based on something they've heard from a family member I could buy a new house. Given the information seems to flow onto the internet so freely from family members I highly doubt he's telling anyone anything other than he's not decided.
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            • G-Mo77
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Apr 2007
              • 9876

              Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

              I'm pretty much positive that he's going, I think most of us are but there is still something so small in the back of mind that thinks that he may stay. I'd just like to have that small glimmer of hope squashed so I can move on. Callan if you have made your decision just say so, then everyone can all move on.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14965

                Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                Originally posted by Greystache
                Clever answer.
                Exactly what the repeated comment deserved

                Originally posted by Greystache
                If I had a dollar for every person who had an inside scoop about what Callan will do based on something they've heard from a family member I could buy a new house. Given the information seems to flow onto the internet so freely from family members I highly doubt he's telling anyone anything other than he's not decided.
                No worries, nobody ever knows anything. Cool. We may as well shut down the site.

                Moving on.

                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                I'm pretty much positive that he's going, I think most of us are but there is still something so small in the back of mind that thinks that he may stay.
                I very much hope he stays, but if he does go I really hope his contract is heavily front loaded to maximise compensation.
                Band 2 would only be "fair" return, and if he managed to snag Tier 1 (which is where Scully sits by all accounts) that would probably suit us to a tee given we are likely to spend 2012 developing/transitioning the regulars.
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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  Exactly what the repeated comment deserved


                  No worries, nobody ever knows anything. Cool. We may as well shut down the site.

                  Moving on.
                  Get over yourself.

                  I've heard 3 reports from people who all know the family well this weekend alone.

                  Definitely staying.
                  Definitely going.
                  Definitely hasn't decided.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                    Look, it'll be easy enough to figure this out in hindsight. Let's wait until the week of Mad Monday and Callan's announcement of him signing with GWS, which will happen as surely as the sun will rise. I'm sure some will STILL claim that he only made up his mind in that week, but the rest of us are somewhat less gullible.

                    Everyone in the football world knows Callan (and Scully, for that matter) is gone, except supposedly his family and himself, ONE WEEK from the end of the season? Please. My greater concern is why our football department isn't out there making waves about compensation.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14965

                      Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Get over yourself.
                      I initially made a comment to Lantern - not sure how you stalking me and repeating yourself is my issue

                      Moving on.

                      Originally posted by Lantern
                      My greater concern is why our football department isn't out there making waves about compensation.
                      Even if a decision has been made - I'd expect this would be Fantasia's responsibility, and goes further to painting him in a less than favourable light.
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                      • Greystache
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                        Originally posted by Lantern
                        Everyone in the football world knows Callan (and Scully, for that matter) is gone, except supposedly his family and himself, ONE WEEK from the end of the season? Please. My greater concern is why our football department isn't out there making waves about compensation.
                        Exactly. Melbourne will get two first round picks because the public expectation is already that they will, and the AFL won't want to be seen to upset the fans twice over the same issue. We've made no noise, seemingly unaware what he's going to do, so there's no expectation for them to do the right thing by us.

                        We should've been far more proactive, it seems we regularly get caught by surprise by things that others have seen coming.
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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18034

                          Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          Exactly. Melbourne will get two first round picks because the public expectation is already that they will, and the AFL won't want to be seen to upset the fans twice over the same issue. We've made no noise, seemingly unaware what he's going to do, so there's no expectation for them to do the right thing by us.

                          We should've been far more proactive, it seems we regularly get caught by surprise by things that others have seen coming.
                          Well, to be fair to Fantasia, this is an unprecedented situation. It's not like we've ever had to deal with a new franchise poaching one of our up and coming stars.

                          Oh, the Harbrow thing....
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10162

                            Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Well, to be fair to Fantasia, this is an unprecedented situation. It's not like we've ever had to deal with a new franchise poaching one of our up and coming stars.

                            Oh, the Harbrow thing....
                            This seems a common trend. Are we scared to make noise? I'm sure if we'd pumped up Libba's performance more throughout the season he would have scored a Rising Star Nomination by now, even Pearce won it a few years back because Williams was so vocal about him in the media.

                            The only saving grace for losing Ward has to be 2 first round picks. If the rumoured salary is true, it has to be 2 first round picks. Yet, I'd bet just about everything I have that we won't get that.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                              Article from Caro in today's Age.

                              Dogs 'not confident' of keeping Ward
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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3926

                                Re: Callan Ward - Staying or going?

                                We won't like it but we will move on

                                We can't upset the whole pay structure of the club to pay one very promising player

                                The interesting thing was that I noticed an article giving the impression that the AFL had changed its stance on us getting two picks for Ward.

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