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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #76
    Re: Our next coach?

    I'm sorry but we need someone who's played ( no disrespect ) still reckon Leon's a certainty.
    Wouldn't mind seeing Harvey as an assistant under Cameron or even Laidley.

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    • Guest

      #77
      Re: Our next coach?

      Interesting that as part of the selection process that coaches are rated on all different skill sets with coaching ability worth about 20% of the total package

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      • LongWait
        WOOF Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 936

        #78
        Re: Our next coach?

        Originally posted by NoParkingOnMatchDays
        Interesting that as part of the selection process that coaches are rated on all different skill sets with coaching ability worth about 20% of the total package
        How do you know what the selection criterion are for the Bulldogs job and how do you define "coaching ability"?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #79
          Re: Our next coach?

          Completely disagree with those that state previous afl playing experience is a must. We need the best coach not the best former player, McCartney is a beauty and if we go that way we will have a wonderful stragizer and teacher of the game that has had success follow him for a reason.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9901

            #80
            Re: Our next coach?

            Originally posted by Desipura
            What a joke that Monty is on the shortlist. Lake won't be there if he got the gig. I'm finding it harder to justify a lot of the decisions that have been made.
            You shouldn't change your decision because a certain player won't like him. If Monty is the best candidate and a player has a problem with it then send him packing.

            I do agree that Monty on the shortlist is a joke, same goes with Paul Williams.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: Our next coach?

              I think we're all a little scarred from the Rohde debacle and hence a little nervous about this one. Rocket was a proven coach so it was easy, however it looks like we will almost certainly get someone without senior coaching experience this time around.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67703

                #82
                Re: Our next coach?

                Originally posted by bulldogsimmo
                Completely disagree with those that state previous afl playing experience is a must. We need the best coach not the best former player, McCartney is a beauty and if we go that way we will have a wonderful stragizer and teacher of the game that has had success follow him for a reason.
                How many AFL games did Neil Craig play? I agree we want the best coach.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14554

                  #83
                  Re: Our next coach?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  How many AFL games did Neil Craig play? I agree we want the best coach.
                  Would you call Craig a succesful coach?
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67703

                    #84
                    Re: Our next coach?

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Would you call Craig a succesful coach?
                    Depends on what you call successful. Craig coached from 2003 to 2011 and had a winning record of 55.42% with 92 wins and 74 losses, 3 finals wins and 6 losses including 2 prelims
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: Our next coach?

                      Originally posted by bornadog

                      How many AFL games did Neil Craig play?

                      None.

                      He played 319 games in the SANFL and played for South Australia eleven times.

                      He was ultimately unsuccessful at Adelaide.

                      His playing experience is vast compared to McCartney's years in the Geelong Football League in the 1980s.

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13387

                        #86
                        Re: Our next coach?

                        When will we make a decision?
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67703

                          #87
                          Re: Our next coach?

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          When will we make a decision?
                          Monday?
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #88
                            Re: Our next coach?

                            Originally posted by The Rocket
                            None.

                            He played 319 games in the SANFL and played for South Australia eleven times.

                            He was ultimately unsuccessful at Adelaide.

                            His playing experience is vast compared to McCartney's years in the Geelong Football League in the 1980s.
                            Again you are talking about playing not coaching.
                            In soccer coaches like Jose Mourinho, Guus Hiddink and Arrigio Sacchi are all champion coaches with little, poor or no playing experience at the highest level. Sure there are plenty of others in many sports.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #89
                              Re: Our next coach?

                              From wikipedia
                              Sacchi never played football professionally, and before becoming a coach he was a shoe salesman. This led to his famous quote to the ones that questioned his qualifications: "I never realised that in order to become a jockey you have to have been a horse first".

                              He went on to win Italian, european and intercontineal championships Missed a World Cup title on penalties.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #90
                                Re: Our next coach?

                                Originally posted by bulldogsimmo

                                Completely disagree with those that state previous afl playing experience is a must. We need the best coach not the best former player, McCartney is a beauty and if we go that way we will have a wonderful stragizer and teacher of the game that has had success follow him for a reason.

                                Success follows him?

                                Ocean Grove bought him some Premierships in the mid 90s. There are a lot of successful country coaches out there.

                                He then scored a job under the Geish at Richmond after kissing his arse repeatedly while he worked in Geelong.

                                Not much success at Richmond (the reserves finished 4th and 6th) but he did enough to score a job at Geelong when Bomber took the helm.

                                Seven years later, Geelong won the flag and then won another one a couple of years after that.

                                Thompson then had him signed as an assistant at Essendon.

                                I think success follows Bomber Thompson a little more than it follows Brendan McCartney.

                                Whilst he has been a terrific assistant coach, he lacks the right experience to work as a senior coach. His entire AFL experience has been derived from Bomber Thompson. He isn't well rounded enough to perform the tasks we'd need him to.

                                Compare his experience to Leon Cameron's (I did Sanderson yesterday). Leon played 250 games under Wheeler, Joyce, Wallace and Frawley and coached under Eade and Clarkson.

                                That's the sort of background required for the role.

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