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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    Who gets delisted?

    Now that trade week has concluded, who gets delisted?

    For me Mulligan would, but I understand he's contracted, likewise Hooper, so they gain a reprieve.

    I'd elevate both Dahlhaus & Panos.

    I'd delist Addison & Prato.

    So, how does that pan out?

    Off: Reid, Hill, Hudson, Hall, Hahn, Addison & Prato.

    On: Panos, Dahlhaus & draftees.
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  • EasternWest
    Hall of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 10002

    #2
    Re: Who gets delisted?

    For mine I'd take the hit and delist Mulligan and Hooper. Being out of contract, Addison and Stack are no brainers.

    With Ward, Hudson, Hill and Hall gone that means eight new players required. Dahlhaus already elevated, and Panos deserving due to good VFL form and doing everything asked of him. Barlow stays on rookie list. Six new inclusions. That's enough for this year I reckon, with the view to another 7 or so next year.

    I'm done with sentimentality. Let's get them young, train them right and build our own premiership team. If they're not going to get us there, get rid of them. Harsh, but I'm tired of missing out.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5113

      #3
      Re: Who gets delisted?

      I'd give Stack another year. I think he actually could be a capable AFL player, and is still suffering from confidence issues. Whether or not he achieves what i think he can remains to be seen, but worst case scenario is his spot opens up pick 83 next year instead of pick 83 this year.

      Addison however is gone, so I'd have my outs reading as:

      Out: Ward, Hudson, Hall, Reid, Hill, Addison, Prato (rookie), Hahn (rookie)

      In: Dahlhaus, Panos, draftees.

      Therefore the same as TCD
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #4
        Re: Who gets delisted?

        Excluding the players traded out and retired

        Main list- Addison, Stack

        Rookies- Prato, Hahn

        Promote Dahlhaus and Panos.

        That leaves 5 draft selections and 4 rookie selections.

        Mulligan and Hooper need to go, but I'd cut deeper next year in an umcompromised draft and use our compensation picks.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66687

          #5
          Re: Who gets delisted?

          Originally posted by Greystache
          Excluding the players traded out and retired

          Main list- Addison, Stack

          Rookies- Prato, Hahn

          Promote Dahlhaus and Panos.

          That leaves 5 draft selections and 4 rookie selections.

          Mulligan and Hooper need to go, but I'd cut deeper next year in an umcompromised draft and use our compensation picks.
          Would you leave Barlow as a Rookie ie for one of the 4?
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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #6
            Re: Who gets delisted?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Would you leave Barlow as a Rookie ie for one of the 4?
            Yep, I'd keep him and Johannissen on the rookie list.
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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3702

              #7
              Re: Who gets delisted?

              My take would be

              Out: Ward, Hall, Reid, Hudson, Hill, Skinner (Prato and Hahn from rookie list)

              Upgrade: Panos, Dalhaus

              that would give us 4 picks, 17, 39, 49 & 57

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              If any of Gilbee, Hooper and Mulligan are uncontracted then they go too and we use any remaining picks for the ND or PSD.

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              One more chance for Addison & Stack.
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              • Drunken Bum
                Rookie List
                • Sep 2007
                • 435

                #8
                Re: Who gets delisted?

                If it were up to me

                Out: Ward, Hall, Reid, Hudson, Hill, Hooper, Mulligan.
                Yes i am aware that the last two are contracted but i don't believe they do or will offer us anything, they would be on minimum wage or close to it and we have room to move in the salary cap so it won't affect us there paying them out.

                I would offer both Stack and Addison a one year contract, take it or leave it, if one or both leave, Hooper and/or Mulligan see out their contract before delisting.

                Upgrade: Panos, Dalhaus

                that would give us 4 picks, 17, 39, 49, 57 & 70

                Barlow and Johannson(sp?) retained on rookie list
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66687

                  #9
                  Re: Who gets delisted?

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  My take would be

                  Out: Ward, Hall, Reid, Hudson, Hill, Skinner (Prato and Hahn from rookie list)

                  Upgrade: Panos, Dalhaus

                  that would give us 4 picks, 17, 39, 49 & 57

                  -----------------------------------------------------

                  If any of Gilbee, Hooper and Mulligan are uncontracted then they go too and we use any remaining picks for the ND or PSD.

                  -----------------------------------------------------

                  One more chance for Addison & Stack.
                  This sounds sensible and gives us on top of Panos and Dahlhaus another 4 fresh players, plus Tom Hill hasn't debuted, and still having ND and PSD for more possibles.
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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5565

                    #10
                    Re: Who gets delisted?

                    I am inclined towards retiring Gilbee. Perhaps give him Hahn's rookie spot to coach at Willi and a specialist kicking coach for the team.

                    That could honour his contract and free up a spot. It would also allow Lake onto the veteran's list for salary cap space if we still need it.

                    On the playing field I think Stack and Addison both have more to offer than Gilbee.

                    I also see limited hope for Mulligan and Hooper. If the contracts are an issue perhaps they can go back to the rookie list.

                    Uograde for Dahlhaus and Panos.
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                    • Missing Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8501

                      #11
                      Re: Who gets delisted?

                      Out - Hudson, Hall, Hill, Reid, Ward, Mulligan, Addison
                      Upgrade - Panos, Dahlhaus
                      Retain - Barlow, Johannissen

                      Gives us 5 picks.

                      I don't see a long term future with Hooper either, but he had a few reasonable games and gives us some depth.

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                      • anfo27
                        WOOF Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 2002

                        #12
                        Re: Who gets delisted?

                        Out: Hudson, Hall, Reid, Ward, Hill, Hahn, Prato & Stack
                        Upgrade: Panos & Dollhouse

                        Leave us with 4 picks and next year cut deeper with Gilbee & Shaggy retiring, Hooper, Addison, Mulligan delisted with possibly Skinner & Moles to join them.

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                        • ReLoad
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1460

                          #13
                          Re: Who gets delisted?

                          Out: Hudson, Hall, Ward, Reid, Hill, Hahn, Prato, Addison, Stack, Barlow and Mulligan.

                          There is no value whatsoever in hanging onto any of them, they are not going to improve over the next 12 months. We are better of getting a look at some kids who at least have the potential to be something, rather than those who do not.

                          Upgrage of Panos (he is worth a roll of the dice) and Dollhouse is a lock in.

                          Johan is a coin toss, he really didnt set the world on fire, but has shown glimpses. (so hang onto him.
                          Whilst Barlow is great cover, I would rather us be giving a kid a game, as opposed to someone who we have already seen the best of.

                          11 changes, that's probably too many, but I do not see the value in holding onto turnips.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15444

                            #14
                            Re: Who gets delisted?

                            Originally posted by bulldogsman

                            I don't see a long term future with Hooper either, but he had a few reasonable games and gives us some depth.
                            But is only a one position player so what cover does he really add?

                            At least with someone like Stack or Addison they can play a number of roles.

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                            • stefoid
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1846

                              #15
                              Re: Who gets delisted?

                              Tell me about Skinner and Prato. Why are they gone?

                              Stack, I would keep and let Bmac see what he can do with him. Upside.

                              Skinner still contracted.

                              I think Addison is the one I would cut. Just cant see his disposal getting any better.

                              Take 4 picks in the ND

                              Two new rookies. three is we delist prato.

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