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  • Raw Toast
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 982

    #31
    Re: Who gets delisted?

    Originally posted by Greystache
    Not only is he so short he would be exposed in the air, but for a player so short he also really lacks agility. He runs in straight lines and straight lines only.
    I'm not a fan of Hooper's but he did play most of his junior footy as a defender, and won an award for it, so in a compromised and apparently shallow draft, I'm happy to give him another year (which he's contracted for anyway), and to see if he can do anything down back. Picken isn't suited to the role down there, so can't hurt to trial another option.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15445

      #32
      Re: Who gets delisted?

      Originally posted by Raw Toast
      I'm not a fan of Hooper's but he did play most of his junior footy as a defender, and won an award for it, so in a compromised and apparently shallow draft, I'm happy to give him another year (which he's contracted for anyway), and to see if he can do anything down back. Picken isn't suited to the role down there, so can't hurt to trial another option.
      You find many more very short players in the TAC Cup than you do at AFL level which is probably why he did well.

      Who from other clubs would you be happy to see Hooper stand next too?

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44634

        #33
        Re: Who gets delisted?

        Originally posted by G-Mo77
        Out
        Hall
        Hudson
        Josh Hill
        Callan Ward
        Sam Reid

        Delist
        Mulligan

        In
        Matthew Panos
        Luke Dahlhaus

        Rookie List
        Ed Barlow
        Jason Johannissen

        4 picks in the Draft which I think is enough.
        I agree with Sockeyes view on this however, I still think we need to delist at least one more given what we might be looking at in another 12 months. I'm not sure if it should be Hooper, Addison, Moles or Gilbee but we need to cut a little deeper now.
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        • G-Mo77
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Apr 2007
          • 9876

          #34
          Re: Who gets delisted?

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I agree with Sockeyes view on this however, I still think we need to delist at least one more given what we might be looking at in another 12 months. I'm not sure if it should be Hooper, Addison, Moles or Gilbee but we need to cut a little deeper now.
          I think Moles is safe, I'm pretty sure he has another year on his contract same goes with Hooper.

          Addison was shopped according to some of the media outlets so he could be the other.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44634

            #35
            Re: Who gets delisted?

            Originally posted by G-Mo77
            I think Moles is safe, I'm pretty sure he has another year on his contract same goes with Hooper.

            Addison was shopped according to some of the media outlets so he could be the other.

            There are a few considerations in determining if we cut a bit deeper but with what we are faced with again in 12 months I don't think it's worth waiting another year.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66700

              #36
              Re: Who gets delisted?

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I agree with Sockeyes view on this however, I still think we need to delist at least one more given what we might be looking at in another 12 months. I'm not sure if it should be Hooper, Addison, Moles or Gilbee but we need to cut a little deeper now.
              Gilbee's age is against him as well as his poor performance over the past two years. I would be looking at Gilbee or Addison, however, the jury is still out on Hooper and Moles as AFL footballers.
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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                #37
                Re: Who gets delisted?

                Gilbee, Moles and Hooper are all under contract. (I'm pretty sure)

                Only chance out of that to part ways with is Gilbee if he retires.

                I'm pretty sure Stack is out of contract as well so he's another name that could be put on the chopping block.

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2876

                  #38
                  Re: Who gets delisted?

                  At the risk of sounding like 'tanking'. We should cut hard while we still have the live compensation pick.

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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    #39
                    Re: Who gets delisted?

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    But is only a one position player so what cover does he really add?

                    At least with someone like Stack or Addison they can play a number of roles.
                    I realise he doesn't add much, but he's still contracted for next year and I'm hoping he proves me wrong.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15445

                      #40
                      Re: Who gets delisted?

                      Originally posted by bulldogsman
                      I realise he doesn't add much, but he's still contracted for next year and I'm hoping he proves me wrong.
                      I hope the coaching staff get in his ear pretty hard and demand he changes his body shape over the coming months. Matt Panos was told to lose his chunky rear end over last years pre-season, which he did, and we saw a much more versatile player this year.

                      If Hooper can drop a few kilo's it might help him improve his endurance and agility which will give his game a needed boost.

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                      • soupman
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5113

                        #41
                        Re: Who gets delisted?

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        I hope the coaching staff get in his ear pretty hard and demand he changes his body shape over the coming months. Matt Panos was told to lose his chunky rear end over last years pre-season, which he did, and we saw a much more versatile player this year.

                        If Hooper can drop a few kilo's it might help him improve his endurance and agility which will give his game a needed boost.
                        That's Hoopers only chan ce to make it really. His body atm limits him so much that we may never see him anywhere other than a pocket, and players who are purely forward/back pockets a pretty much dead these days, if not already. Especially one's who don't regularly kick goals.
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44634

                          #42
                          Re: Who gets delisted?

                          I wonder if both/either Gilbee and Hargrave intend to go on and how much that will shape the departures?
                          I think we can get a more than decent season from Hargrave but I'm more skeptical about what we might get out of Gilbee. Gilbee proved in one game up forward that he's still a dangerous player with the footy in his hand but with a few other small forwards already replacing one of them won't be easy.
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                          • gohardorgohome
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 358

                            #43
                            Re: Who gets delisted?

                            Hooper has kicked six goals in six games ( 1 per game) ....thats really about par for a small forward. Some doggies supporters rated Steve Kolynuik and he kicked 198 goals in 177 games (average 1.11 per game).

                            He is not a world beater. However he is only 20 and rated highly by some people I have met from Ballarat area. Worth one more year to prove himself.

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                            • stefoid
                              Senior Player
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1846

                              #44
                              Re: Who gets delisted?

                              Originally posted by gohardorgohome
                              Hooper has kicked six goals in six games ( 1 per game) ....thats really about par for a small forward. Some doggies supporters rated Steve Kolynuik and he kicked 198 goals in 177 games (average 1.11 per game).

                              He is not a world beater. However he is only 20 and rated highly by some people I have met from Ballarat area. Worth one more year to prove himself.
                              Needs to commit his body to the ball at ground level. An insane attack on the man and the ball may save his career.

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                #45
                                Re: Who gets delisted?

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                I wonder if both/either Gilbee and Hargrave intend to go on and how much that will shape the departures?
                                I think we can get a more than decent season from Hargrave but I'm more skeptical about what we might get out of Gilbee. Gilbee proved in one game up forward that he's still a dangerous player with the footy in his hand but with a few other small forwards already replacing one of them won't be easy.
                                After his 6 goal display against Richmond I thought it was strange that he was never played in that position again, especially since he was struggling down back.

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